Posts by eyeuse2badub

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Prayers that are heard. Fuel for a vehicle - YUP. Save us from death - NAH.

by Captain Blithering in

i spoke to a ms the other day, trying to get his opinion on the wt we'd just studied at the meeting.

the paragraph where the co didn't know if he had enough money to afford gas for a trip, he prayed and went anyway, and someone donated the exact amount to cover his trip.. my question to the ms was - the wt clearly are saying jah answered that prayer, yet there were a couple dozen jw's sheltering in a kh in the philippines, undoubtedly praying, yet they all died in the hurricane.

how's that work, how can jah answer some prayers but not others?.

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Even back in the 60's and 70's when I would hear experiences of how Jehovah supposedly answered prayers by providing just the exact amount of money or by sending a pioneer to the door of someone complating suicide, I would cringe. "JW's and other good people die horrific deaths everyday", I would say to myself. Why didn't Jehovah hear their prayer for life. It's been this line of reasoning that has also got my 'believing JW' wife to wondering. Keep up the good work Watchtower! We need more of these miraculous ,'fantasy' experiences to appear in the WT.

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THOUGHT for the DAY

by The Searcher in

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friends

regardless of personal opinion or religious belief, every single human being stands on the threshold of eternity - either of life or of non-existence!

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discuss..

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No one "knows" what lies on the other side of this life. We only "know"what we are taught or chose to believe. After 62 years as a JW, I chose to live each day without fear of what lies ahead and plan to live tomorrow the same way. Make each day count for something good in life.

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Elders oath

by Crazyguy in

is it true that the elders swear an oath when made elders and what is this oath???

?.

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I was an elder for 20 years. No oath! But you did become part of a very elite group of "yes men". That's probably why I'm here because I would no longer say 'yes' when NO was the appropriate answer.

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Jehovah is King! New Light or muck up in 15/01/14 WT?

by wizzstick in

so the new jan wt article on "100 years of kingdom rulehow does it affect you?

" is up, which i think has its own thread.

but over on jwr poster cg4205 has noticed something that demands a seperate thread i think.. at the top of the article, in the can you answer box, it says:.

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DATA-DOG has it right. It is about 'brand recognition'. Jehovah replaced Jesus during the brutal Rutherford era. Anything that mainstream Christianity believed, Rutherford took an opposite stance. In JW land, Jesus is only a figurehead much like the Queen of England. Sad but true.

In JW land, to be "in the truth" and be a good JW, teachings and doctrines are not the important thing. It's our obedience to those teachings and doctrines that is important.

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Jehovah is King! New Light or muck up in 15/01/14 WT?

by wizzstick in

so the new jan wt article on "100 years of kingdom rulehow does it affect you?

" is up, which i think has its own thread.

but over on jwr poster cg4205 has noticed something that demands a seperate thread i think.. at the top of the article, in the can you answer box, it says:.

eyeuse2badub

DATA-DOG has it right. It is about 'brand recognition'. Jehovah replaced Jesus during the brutal Rutherford era. Anything that mainstream Christianity believed, Rutherford took an opposite stance. In JW land, Jesus is only a figurehead much like the Queen of England. Sad but true.

In JW land, to be "in the truth" and be a good JW, teachings and doctrines are not the important thing. It's our obedience to those teachings and doctrines that is important.

eyeuse2badub

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No longer a former JW, I am now a Human Being

by AllTimeJeff in

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lurkers, debaters, haters, lovers, the lost, the found, and the misplaced.

it's been a while, and i wanted to pop in.

the point isn't to agree.

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I'm damned near ashamed to admit that i was ever a JW even to JW's. Nearly 60 years in the org. Not all bad of course but then I know many, many people who have never even been religious, and their lives have been just fine.

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Universal Sovereignty or Why Bad Things Happen

by Comatose in

i've been developing this thought in my head for a few weeks.

let's address this from a theists perspective and from the perspective of our jw relatives.

answer - no, god can't be wrong or make a mistake.

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Comatose---you nailed it!

"Universal Sovereignty" is another WTBTS theory that is presented as an absolute core doctrine. In other words, If the WTBTS can't explain it, they make up something as an 'explanation'. It doesn't have to be reasonable, logical, or even believable.

I'd much rather face questions that cannot be answered--than answers that cannot be questioned!

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Why the field service reports?

by Syme in

some years ago, we had this difficult bible study with a guy who was unofficially a witness for about 40 years, yet he would never make the step of becoming an unbaptized publisher.

we pushed him at some point to tell us the reason, and the reason was this: he didn't agree with the field reports practice.

he said he did a lot of preaching by himself but didn't see any reason to report it to the congregation.. of course, we told him that the reason we hand in field reports is so that we have statistics, and know how much work is done worldwide and bla-bla-blah.

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The WTBTS is much more interested in numbers and stats than anything else. The very first question considered when a BOE meets to discuss new 'appointments' of brothers for either elder or MS is: "How much time does he get in FS?" "Is he 'visible' in FS?" The organization has created a beaurocracy on 'bean counters'.

How much real, actual time is spent preaching verses time 'out in service'? lol

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Why do we have Assemblies?

by Rattigan350 in

why do we have assemblies?

was the topic of the book/brochure study last week.. the answer not presented is that they are the organization's black friday.

stores do black friday as a loss leader to get people into the stores to spend money on more pricey stuff, not discounted.. assemblies are put on to give away books and other literature and have dramas to get people in to donate and contribute more than normally done.. yes, religion is a business.

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Blondie;

You hit it exactly on the head. JW's are compared more to the nation of Israel than to the Christian congregation in WTBTS literature. No where in the NT do we read of large 'assemblies' nor 'conventions' of Christians. Christian meeting were held in privat homes, not churches nor kingdom halls. Conventions are time wasters and expensive. To think that I used to take my family vacation and go to a 'cornvention'. Sad indeed!

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Proper grammar and "This Generation"

by Crazyguy in

i was never good at spelling and probably worse at grammar.

so if jesus really ment that the phrase "this generation" was an over lapping of generations then what would of been the proper way of saying it, if at all????

?.

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Let us all be thankful on this day of Thanksgiving. Clearly, we should be very thankful that the current ruling GB has laid out such an impossibly ridiculous explanation of "this generation". Evidently, very few are really buying this 'overlapping' bs of an explanation. Apparently, many are now waking up to the WTBTS gimmick explanations and cover ups. I know that "overlapping generations" was the final,final nail that caused me to say 'enough'.

So, rather than rant about this stupid "overlapping generation" fiasco, let us be thankful for it's enlightening power to expose and free many.

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