Posts by eyeuse2badub

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Trying to figure things out!

by RecoveringISFJ in

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well, i made comments on a couple of post already, but i guess i should somehow introduce myself.

i choose the user name to hopefully try and identify my past while working for future changes in myself.

ive been in and out since i was a kid.

I was a dub for 57 years. Always had serious doubts about our weird little religion, but being raised in"da troof" you just sort of close your mind to rational, logical thinking and go along. My whole family are jw's and that makes it difficult. When I finally could not go along any longer with the ridiculous crap that the wtbts was teaching, I resigned as an elder and kinda went crazy for several years. I should have been seeing a therapist, didn't and I suffered much mental anguish. I became very depressed and finally checked myself into a mental health facility where I got help dealing with my cognitive dissonance.

When I finally accepted ttatt and told my wife (of 45 years) about how I felt, she was going to leave me because I was an "evil apostate" you know. Been out mentally (sort of faded away) now for 5-6 years but not df'ed or da'ed. My wife is beginning to understand also that the 'da troof' is not 'da troof'. It's been quite a ride (as many of us here can testify) but well worth the anguish since my life is now mine. The freedom is exhilarating! Time to pursue the things I loved but neglected is very rewarding/satisfying. My wife, though still active as a dub, has seen a happier, better me and I know that she knows why. You can't go back in time to reclaim all those lost decades but, you can live a very fulfilling life now and in the future.

Hang tuff because it will get better and hopefully (if you want it) your wife will someday see ttatt. You're doing the right thing by getting therapy.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

by wannaexit in

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i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

eyeuse2badub

Sorry about my last post. Just got carried away and off point with my rant. lol

just ranting!

eyeuse2badub

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Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

by wannaexit in

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i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

eyeuse2badub

The wtbts is an American/English speaking religion/corporation born and raised right here in the 'good ol' USA. Education/knowledge is of course the enemy of a cult.

When the new revised NW translation came out in 2013, my wife, and nearly every other jw that I knew, were very giddy about this new bible aka silver sword. The new revised bible was proof of jehobers blessing! So, I sort of annoyed her when I pointed out that jehober must only love and bless the english speaking dubs-at least for now.

How can the 100's of other language groups possibly 'keep up with jehober's celestial chariot" when they don't have the "silver sword"?

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

eyeuse2badub

The wtbts doesn't even properly care for the older DO's, CO's and missionaries much less for any "widows and orphans".

Jesus once said (supposedly) "if you do it to the least of these my brothers, you do it to me". So think about it, How does the wtbts provide/take care of the older "widowed, orphaned" anointed ones. The wtbts doesn't even know who the anointed are (maybe a few 'biggies' in and around NYC), but they sure as h**l know every CO, DO, pioneer, missionary, etc. So who is more important to the wtbts? It's a joke!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

eyeuse2badub

JWs do all kinds of "good works" for their fellow man. And, just like Christ's return, their works are invisible!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Governing Body Helpers ----- Who are they? Are they future GB in the making?

by adjusted knowledge in

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so after nearly 15 to 19 years of not attending a convention, i can't recall exactly, i went to one last year.

the brother giving the talk was from bethel and was introduced as a helper of the governing body.

it was a title i never heard of before.

eyeuse2badub

For many years now, the number of the remnant of anointed Witnesses has been decreasing, while the number of the great crowd has increased beyond our grandest expectations

"Announcement", The Watchtower, April 15, 1992, page 31

"Organizing for Further Expansion", 1993 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, ©Watch Tower, pages 253-254

The FACTS show the above statement to be FALSE/misleading/lies. The number of the "anointed" has basically remained the same for over 40 years according to stats in the year books.

GB flunkies, A.K.A. (acronym for Another Kiss Ass?) HELPERS are being groomed to be GB'ers. All they need is for jehober to send the "holy spirit" to anoint them. Once they are "anointed" they too will receive 'nu-lite'. Can't wait!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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"You are still married, and still happy ?"

by Phizzy in

i met an aging, well, late sixties, pioneer sister a few days back, from a congregation four removes away, and a different circuit to my old congo.

i have known her since i was a kid.. i wasn't quite sure at first if she knew our "status" as we exchanged pleasantries, but it soon became clear she knew exactly our situation, that we walked away a few years ago.. she asked me about my views on life now, and listened respectfully, and said she appreciated my view, but a couple of questions that she threw at me, as in the thread title, showed that she was surprised that mrs phizzy and i had not gone off the rails after we left.. the mind control goes so very deep does it not ?

she was surprised that our marriage hadn't failed, and that we were now happy.. i wonder if she will ever make the connection that the jw org has lied to her about those of us who leave ?.

eyeuse2badub

Zoos,

Ditto

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Sam Herd to speak at Orangeburg, SC assemblies Jan. 17-18

by sir82 in

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i just heard a fairly reliable rumor that sam herd will be the "guest bethel speaker" at the circuit assemblies at the orangeburg sc assembly hall on january 17-18. .

orangeburg is about halfway between columbia & charleston, assembly hall is right off i-26.. just in case any of y'all want to be enlightened.

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eyeuse2badub

Herd is a terd. He is so full of himself. He fashions himself a Cosbylike comedian and likes to tell little stories/experiences about when he was in the traveling work.

These GB guys make asses out of themselves and are an embarrassment to the rank and file jw's with their 'stupid' talks/rants and comments. They want their words to be taken as gospel without "actually" having them printed in the wastetower magazine. They seem to use circuit assemblies as a forum to test out their personal opinions to see the reaction of the rank and file.

I remember Garritt Loush giving a talk at our circuit assembly 15-20 years ago about violent sports and basically ~~telling~~ strongly suggesting to us not to watch football or soccer. OMG! our CO,jumped on that stupid talk at his next visit and told the servant body that we needed to heed those words from "the least of Christ's brothers" as if Jesus himself said it!

WOW! I fell for it and didn't watch football for at least a week.

Wasn't it better when the GB were a bunch of mysterious guys behind the curtain? I mean once they revealed themselves, it became obvious just how puffed up and pompous these guys are.

Just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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New song 136

by sir82 in

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this week's service meeting, the whole 30 minutes, is devoted to the "new songs" foisted upon jws.. note this from paragraph 8 of the km article that is to be considered:.

we will conclude our meeting today with the new song entitled the kingdom is in placelet it come!

this song, which was featured at the recent annual meeting, was specially composed to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of the kingdom.. .

eyeuse2badub

Ever notice how 'catchy' Christmas songs are? They are only played for about 3-4 weeks a year but everyone (including jw's) knows the words to the Christmas songs. Go to JW meetings for 60 years and they still need the songbook to sing along. Boring music just doesn't 'catch on'. Dirges and depressing music even more so!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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"You are still married, and still happy ?"

by Phizzy in

i met an aging, well, late sixties, pioneer sister a few days back, from a congregation four removes away, and a different circuit to my old congo.

i have known her since i was a kid.. i wasn't quite sure at first if she knew our "status" as we exchanged pleasantries, but it soon became clear she knew exactly our situation, that we walked away a few years ago.. she asked me about my views on life now, and listened respectfully, and said she appreciated my view, but a couple of questions that she threw at me, as in the thread title, showed that she was surprised that mrs phizzy and i had not gone off the rails after we left.. the mind control goes so very deep does it not ?

she was surprised that our marriage hadn't failed, and that we were now happy.. i wonder if she will ever make the connection that the jw org has lied to her about those of us who leave ?.

eyeuse2badub

Hi Phizzy,

My wife is still struggling with the FACT that I'm a much happier and much more balanced human now that I've 'left the troof'. The shackles are broken and no longer do I have to spend endless hours preparing talks, parts for the meeting, study the wastetower and slave for the RBC.

Time to live life and enjoy the fruits of my labor is very rewarding and satisfying. I know that it somewhat bothers my wife that I don't miss all that 'busy work' laid on us by the wtbts. She's of the WT mindset that having fun in "this system" is wrong.

20+ years as an elder, 60 years as a dub and GOD I'm happy that it's behind me. It's almost like getting out of prison after serving a 50 year sentence.

Absolutely, living a happy, meaningful, fulfilling life is the best way to combat the jw mindset that we all go nuts if we leave "da troof".

48 years of marriage, still happy with my wife and still trying to introduce her to TTATT.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub