we had a special talk (streaming) today from g. jackson, announcing the new revised bible in dutch.
there are many many changes, even some of the the dutch 'jw-language' will change because bible verses changed.
also brother jackson admitted (be it in a joking way ) that whole talks in the past (until now) had been based on wrong translated bible verses.
Also brother Jackson admitted (be it in a joking way ) that whole talks in the past (until now) had been based on wrong translated bible verses.
What Jackson really meant to say, in a not so joking manner was the the whole f*cking religion is based on wrong translated bible verses.
just saying!
i was looking around from some information on the wt's stance concerning the use of stem cells, and i came across this article on a defending jehovah's witnesses blog.. rather than informing the reader all that much about stem cells, the author diverts the conversation into a discussion of "blood fractions" (*note: the term "blood fractions" appears to be another one of those wt bloodspeak terms coined by the wt.
"blood components" or "blood products" are the terms used more frequently by the medical world.
"fractions" implies tiny amounts).
BLOOD FRACTIONS! LOL---LOL---LOL
It's the old "strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel" line of reasoning. So in the future will it be okay for dubs to smoke just "fractions" of a joint?
JUST SAYING!
i pretty much did it all.
vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.
i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.
Great topic since so many of us really believed that we were serving jehober and our fellow dubs as we ascended the wt ladder. It was the only thing that a 'dedicated' (male) witness was encouraged to aspire. we were soooo delusional! Oh My F*cking God were we delusional! It was so important as a young 'brother' to achieve those "stripes and badges" as we climbed that invisible ladder.
Too bad if you were born a woman! Nothing for you to aspire to in jehober's org except 'pioneer' and, maybe, if you were real lucky, the all important job of supporting your elder husband! IMHO, women would have been sooo much better at many of the organizational/congregation responsibilities and decision making positions.
I was like a jw "golden boy" so to speak. Vacation pioneered in the summer, baptized at 12 years old, gave my first public talk at 18 years old, married at 19 years old, regular pioneer at 20 years old, elder at 23 years old (when the 'elder arrangement' first began in 1972) and 'served' as an elder for over 3 decades off and on. I was used extensively for circuit parts and was a much requested speaker for public talks in our area of SoCal. I was sooo 'blessed' with sooo many "privileges"!----God I was great!---It was very hard to be humble when so much is heaped upon you so early in life and unfortunately, I ate it up like a buffoon! Other young ones in the 'troof' were out having fun, drinking, smoking, dancing, partying, doing a little weed (and other drugs), getting a little pu**y from some of the hotties in the vast SoCal area.
Me,----I was home studying for my next part on the meeting or circuit assembly or preparing my 'presentation.
Now I'm 70 and damn happy to be free of the wt organization even though I still attend occasionally to be with my lovely wife of 50+ years. I've seen a lot of sh*t go down in the wt borg. Not even close to what I knew as that "golden boy" growing up in the 60's and 70's. No "do overs" in life but it hasn't been all that bad either!
just saying!
i've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and i came across this in the baptism talk.
go on the offensive against paralyzing fear (7 min.
)[read 1 peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing goodand do not give in to fear”].
JW's have not only "overlapping generations", they also have "elastic scriptures" when they need a real stretch!
just saying!
does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?
for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?
an intellectual understanding?
Isn't is like having a mass murder as your 'best friend"?
just asking!
a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.
if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.
they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.
The fundamentalist reasoning that the bible's age makes it special and from god is laughable. True, the bible is very old and it shows. Sh*t contained in much of the bible is so unbelievable, fanciful, offensive, macabre, and grotesque. It contains too many stories of fuk'ed up, immoral men that were considered 'god's friends', "faithful men of old". Women are pretty much and afterthought in bible mythology. Sure it has some words of wisdom sprinkled in also but "even a blind squirrel finds and acorn once in awhile".
I now consider the bible Hebrew mythology and nothing more. Oh and isn't Satan old?
just saying!
circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.
and everything is caught on video!.
kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.
I totally agree with Simon's take on this type of 'shitty, stupid, irrational' behavior. There is never a justification, IMHO, for a mentally stable adult to interrupt and basically harass people in their place of worship. Also, by harassing the 'coffee cart' tenders demonstrates a certain lack of respect, humanity, and dignity.
While I'm extremely happy to no longer be a part of the wtbts organization, I do believe that most individual JW's are basically very nice people that are caught up in a cult like influence. Direct frontal attacks, such as this guy Kevin is using only reinforces their 'bunker' mentality and makes them dig in their heals!
My advice to Kevin--you need help!
just saying!
i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.
i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.
the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.
I definitely 'stripped off the old personality'--the one I developed as a life long jw. Got rid of the superior attitude, the judgmental viewpoints, the 'holier than thou' attitude. I stopped drinking the wt cool-aid, stopped smoking the wt smoke screen, and stopped my drug addiction to the crack (pot), 'feel good' wt drug of everlasting life in a Paradise earth with my very own pet panda and lion.
I put on the 'new personality' of being the person I was born to be. No more FOG to interfere with living a good life. I'm a kinder, gentler, and more genuine human. I'm a better husband, because I now have time for my wife. No more fu*king busy work of always preparing meeting parts, assembly parts, public talks, elders meetings, sheep herding calls, kh cleaning, CO week crap,circuit assembly days, district conventions, field service, family study. Whew! I'm also , a better father and grandfather, for all the afore mentioned reasons.
Yes the 'new personality' that I have put on truly is the 'best way of life'.
just saying!
“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.
it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.
jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.
Well I think it's safe to say that most of us here have already adjusted our faulty decision (getting baptized) based on new and accurate information. Interestingly, have mentioned this to my, still-in, wife so many, many times. If wt can adjust there thinking and teachings, based on new information (aka-new light) why is it that forcefully require members to shun those individual members who use the same reasoning?
She was sweating after the wt meeting yesterday when she saw it in print. Changing your decisions can be a very good thing--so sayeth the wt!
just saying!
maybe i have watched too many zombie movies but i would sleep with one eye open, inquire to see what is your favored menu,do you sleep walk, are your body parts functioning properly (i would hate to shake your hand and it fall off).
your wife never married after 10 years and now you are back, can you perform in the marriage bed?
?it would be hard for me to sleep at nights with someone that have been dead for over one year sleeping next to me.
Smiddy
Yea the purpose of marriage was "to multiply and become many". So once the resurrection occurs and jehober, in his exquisite display of love for mankind, resurrects everyone that died before Armageddon, the friggin earth will be full. No need for "multiplying and becoming many". No need for marriage, no need for sex. Hell---we'll be in Paradise bro.
just saying!
