It's called Hebrew mythology. Almost as interesting as Egyptian and Greek mythology.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
so i've been reading the imitate their faith book (because my wife wants to) and keep coming upon these ridiculous ages for the bible patriarchs.
now i know wt takes everything literally but there has got to be some explanation that makes more sense.
why would the bible writers create these obviously false ages?
It's called Hebrew mythology. Almost as interesting as Egyptian and Greek mythology.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
we had this plan of action with our kid's, if they asked us a question that we deemed they were to young to know about we would divert their attention, oh, could you fetch mummy her cardi, i'm feeling abit cold, there's some sweets in my pocket, would you like one etc, you get the idea.
usually this would be enough & they would forget about what they had asked.
when they wern't diverted & asked again we would provide an honest explanation suitable for their age.
One day, many, many years ago as I was watching a football game, my wife comes in and says; “It’s time for The Talk.” She then explained to me that our 7 year old son had just come in from playing outside with some of the ‘worldly’ neighbor kids and asked her the inevitable questions; “where did I come from-how did I get here?” Wow! Ok! So I sat down (at half time) with our 7 year old and I said “Let’s have The Talk!” For the next 25-30 minutes I then proceeded to give our son The Talk. ‘Masterfully’ , I explained all about the penis, the vagina, the sperm, the ovum, etc., etc., and the proper use of such. I even drew little illustrations to help me explain this delicate subject. I did good and amazingly, he actually paid very close attention. When we finished The Talk, I asked if that helped him to understand ‘where he came from and how he got here’. He said yes and thanked me for The Talk. Of course being a little curious and a little concerned about him playing with ‘worldly’ neighbor kids, I casually asked him, “any reason why you wanted to know about this stuff right now”?
His reply; “Yea, the new kids, Jimmy and Billy, said they came from Chicago and they got here by bus!”
just saying!-lol
eyeuse2badub-lol
when speaking with brothers, i can see they really like the jw.org site more than magazines and books.
i can imagine them publishing more and more articles and news as it's more dynamic and creates a sense of alert with brothers looking for new articles to read instead of the boring monthly magazines.. but when it comes to the jw broadcasting, it's something different.
even elders admit they aren't watching the monthly broadcastings.
I agree with several of the posters about how absolutely dumbass these broadcasts make the gb members appear! Even my uber wife sometimes makes disparaging remarks about these presentations.
One thing that non American audiences need to understand is that the wtbts is an American religion. They rest of you are step children in their view.
the internet is a great tool as we all know.
i found this quote from the early book millions now living will never die to be very interesting as it seems to be the exact opposite of what jdubya's practice.
just another example of the double-speak they engage in.
Error always seeks the dark, while truth is always enhanced by the light. Error never desires to be investigated.
If you believe all the teachings of the wtbts, then you will not investigate.
However, if you doubt any of the teachings of the wtbts, the wtbts will investigate you!
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
from my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.
reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.
this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.
Much of the controlling mechanism within this organization is about designing people into being their own public sales representatives to the Watchtower Corporation.
Exactly! Service meetings were nothing more than sales meetings. Practicing our canned 'presentations' was practicing our 'sales pitch'.
Selling the religion without selling the publications ain't working any more.
The creating of 'odd' doctrines was a good strategy for selling more publications.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
this lay off and all the child molestation lawsuits coming to a head with more lay off in the wings.
i'm sure there is a lot of concern going on among those still there.
i'm sure a lot are finding out for the first time that the governing body are all frauds by doing secure internet searches to find out just how much they been had by these villans , i think the situation could be dangerous (the possibility exist).
For over 30 years I owned a manufacturing business. At times I had over 200 employees. It was always devastating to me, as the owner, to have to lay off employees. These employees had children and mortgages and cars to pay for. However, when the market turned down, it was a necessity in order to remain viable. So, since the printing business is down for the wtbts, they are doing the necessary thing. But I know that the gb must be devastated----right? At least the ones getting 'laid off' from bethel and special pioneering don't have children or mortgages or car payments. In fact, they don't have shit because they always 'believed' jehober would take care of them!
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
ok i'm just thinking out load here so to speak.
but let say in the year 2000 the wt says they have 1 million publishers and at the end of the year they say they had 300,000 people get baptized so in the beginning of the year 2001 they show 1,300,000 publishers.
then in this new year they state another 300,000 get baptized but with 50,000 deaths and 50,000 disfellowshippings they stated at the end of year 2001 a total of 1,500,000 total members.
Reasonable, logical humans use mathematics to calculate things that have to do with real numbers. The wtbts uses, and has always used, "mathmagic". With "mathmagic", all things are possible!
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
the wt has been reducing it's printed output of the public wt magazine since 2012.this is how the figures breakdown:.
month ................. wt printing each issue ............. total pages per issue ..... languagesjanuary 2012 ....... 42,182,000 .................................. 1,349,824,000 ...................... 194january 2016 ....... 58,987,000 .................................. 943,792,000 ......................... 254. during 2012 the public wt had 32 pages, so there were 1.35 billion wt pages printed for the public to read each month.1,349,824,000 pages x 12 months = 16,197,888,000 (16.2 billion) pages per year.
by 2016 the public wt has only 16 pages and is being printed only on alternate months.943,792,000 pages x 6 times per year = 5,662,752,000 (5.7 billion pages per year).
Basically they are finally admitting that no one is reading the wt and awake including jw's. Just part of the money saving moves. Been a dub 65 years and have hardly ever read a complete magazine. Wife and I have tossed many grocery bags full of old magazines though. The magazines became weaker and weaker and are now irrelevant!
just saying!
eyeuse2badib
we all remember, one of the main reasons for removing the bookstudy was the high gas prices, well, have you looked at the gas prices today?
nationwide, the lowest is about $1.65, the highest is about $2.67.
isn't that right about the same gas prices as when they cancelled the bookstudy in the first place?
It was nu-lite from god and an "adjustment" in understanding of the bible command to gather together.
To paraphrase Hebrews 10:25 , "not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the less so as you see the day drawing near."
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
this may have been discussed before.
the costs for using the assembly hall for a one day last saturday was $12,000 with another assembly for the other half of the circuit on sunday, which will ring up another $12,000.
if the assembly was for two days the friends might roll their eyes if it were announced the costs for the two days was $24,000.
Circuit assembly Observations from the “Imitate Jehovah”
Spent Sunday with my wife at the circuit assembly in Madera, CA. OMG—boring!
4 part Symposium in the morning that paraded out one boring ‘company man’ after another. Each one started with an overly simplistic illustration on why we need to be like jehober.
One of the 4 symposium talks did catch my attention. It was entitled “using resources wisely”. Of course it was designed to get the sheeple to donate more money to jehober. We was encouraged (guilted): don’t wait till the end of the month to see if we have any leftover available funds to donate, donate early, at the beginning of the month.
I was amazed and amused that the baptism talk included interviews conducted with several fairly new baptized ones. Standard experiences on how imitating jehober helped them to maintain their dedication.
The public talk was: ”How does God feel about religion?” The CO started out by referring us to James 1:27 indicating that there is religion that is clean and undefiled from Gods viewpoint. The scripture states that ‘true religion’ is one that cares for widows and orphans in their tribulation. His point in reading that particular scripture was that there is such a thing as ‘true religion’ according to the bible. He then went on to give 7 identifying marks of the ‘true religion’. Interestingly he never again mentioned James 1:27 as one of the 7 identifying marks!
I asked my wife on the way home what provisions the wtbts has to help ‘widows and orphans’ especially since it’s specifically stated in the bible. She had to think for a few minutes ( I knew this question was bothering her alot) and then answered that the organization helps them ‘spiritually’ and that “evidentially” that’s what that scripture means. I said “okay, you’re probably right” and I left it at that.
Just saying!
Eyeuse2badub