Posts by eyeuse2badub

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The book of Jeremiah

by truthwillsetyoufree in

it occurred to me the other day that i don't actually know all that much about the bible.

dont get me wrong, i was a very dedicated and studious jehovah's witness and i studied the bible every day - or so i thought.

i have now realised that during the time i spent in that religion i didn't study the bible - i studied jehovah's witness theology.

Yea, we jw's like to 'brag' about how know our bible when in reality we know very little about the bible and very much about jw interpretation of the bible. There are around 35,000 verses in the bible and as jw's we probably use only about 75 of them. But we know those 75 by heart because they are repeated over and over and over in the literature and meetings!

Before I started my fade in earnest, I began to have those nagging doubts so I started reading the bible in hopes that my doubts would disappear. What an eye opener to actually read the bible without the jw filter glasses.

My conclusion is that the bible is just Jewish mythology. It was written by Jews, about Jews, and for Jews. Every ancient civilization has there lore, legend, and heroes. The bible is the Jewish record of theirs'.

just saying!

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Fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?

by eyeuse2badub in

fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?.

so i described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw mil last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to jehovah’.

i told them that i would not be fooled thrice.. later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘brother x’, that met with a very untimely death.

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Fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?

So I described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw MIL last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to Jehovah’. I told them that I would not be fooled thrice.

Later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘Brother X’, that met with a very untimely death. He was a real good man and a good ‘brother’. He died in a car accident one Sunday afternoon several years ago.

The wife and MIL were lamenting the fact that if ‘Brother X’ had just gone to the meeting that Sunday and not gone surfing with his kid, he would still be alive! They continued the conversation mentioning that many jw’s have lost their lives by not being where they should have been: out in service, at the meeting, at a KH build, or at a convention.

This is where I chimed in that I didn’t really believe that was the case at all. I cited many examples of jw’s losing their lives because they were: out in service, at the meeting, building KH’s, going to conventions, etc. I specifically mentioned the 23 jw’s in the Philippines that were swept out to sea during super typhoon Haiyan a few years ago! (If only they had been in a safe place, but no, they went to the meeting during a super typhoon!)

My closing words to these 2 great women were; “was it divine retribution for missing the meeting or was it fate, chance, ‘time and unforeseen occurrence’, or just that sh*t happens”?

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Fooled me once--twice---ain't gonna happen thrice

by eyeuse2badub in

fooled me once---shame on you!

fooled me twice---shame on me!

fooled me thrice---ain’t gonna ever happen!.

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JWdaughter

" Was she DF'd? I ask because it seems that those who are DF'd and fight their way back in are all the more adamant about the non-truth after they are reinstated."
No she was not df'ed only reproved publicly. We never discuss the past because it serves no purpose. I have been a much more caring human since I quit being a jw.
just saying!
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Fooled me once--twice---ain't gonna happen thrice

by eyeuse2badub in

fooled me once---shame on you!

fooled me twice---shame on me!

fooled me thrice---ain’t gonna ever happen!.

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Crazyguy

"Are your kids in or out with you?"

My kids are now 44, 42, 36, and 34. They are all jw's 'in name only'. They have seen my fade and realize why and have made up their own mind regarding watchtowerism. BTW, they are also very good family men and women since none of them have ever "reached out" for the glory of elder-dumb! 7 grandchildren and none of them are very active dubs.

Dunedain

"Or did that happen with your first wife, and you guys divorced?"

Still with the same wife, no divorce. I can't really blame her for seeking the comfort of another. She was basically ignored because I was so damn important to the organization. She is a very special woman and I truly love her. Will celebrate our 50th in January.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Appointed men must be exemplary in heeding the warnings given by the faithful slave Governing Body when it comes to higher education.

by oppostate in

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Makes me wonder what the gb think of higher education when they need medical treatment of legal advice. "Oh thank jehober that the doctor saved my life! Thank jehober that we won that court decision"! Praise jah!

Makes me wonder if the gb or any other high ranking jw ever needed to receive 'blood fractions' to save their holy lives; where would the blood fractions come from? Would jehober provide, or would some 'worldly person' donate whole blood?

Hypocrites to the max!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Fooled me once--twice---ain't gonna happen thrice

by eyeuse2badub in

fooled me once---shame on you!

fooled me twice---shame on me!

fooled me thrice---ain’t gonna ever happen!.

eyeuse2badub

Fooled me once---shame on you! Fooled me twice---shame on me! Fooled me thrice---ain’t gonna ever happen!

So I was having a very cordial conversation with my lovely jw wife and her very lovely super duper jw mother last week. They were both kindly encouraging me to “return to Jehovah”. After all, as they both reminded me, I have so much to give to the organization; I had been a child prodigy and a ‘golden boy’ in the wt organization during the 60’s and 70’s, and early 80’s. During the latter 80’s, 90’s, and early 2000’s the shine of the wt organization faded and so did I.

Basically, I was a ‘born in’, baptized at 12, pioneered, gave my first public talk at 18, married (so I wouldn’t commit fornication) at 19, appointed as an elder at 25 after serving my 2 year sentence for ‘draft dodging’, raising my children “in the discipline of jehober”, and doing all the ‘right stuff’ for the organization. However, I was also severely neglecting my young family. It took a toll on my beautiful wife and she temporarily found comfort in the arms (bed) of another. Oh well, shit happens!

Our cordial conversation included all of the above mentioned caveats. So I concluded it by reminding both wife and M-I-L that shame on the wt for ‘fooling us once in 1975—shame on us for being fooled twice by believing that “this generation” would end in 1994! “Returning to Jehovah” would be like fooling me thrice—and that ain’t gonna ever happen!

Just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Jehovah God,Christ Jesus ,IBSA ,why no direct communication between Heaven and Earth ?

by smiddy in

according to jehovah`s witnesses christ jesus was enthroned in heaven in 1914 .. the international bible students ,c.t.russell as president was approved byjesus christ shortly after as the channell approved by jehovah god to dispense spiritual food to his faithful followers here on earth.. why is it that after 100 years of jesus christ rule from heaven over his chosen people , the jw`s , that their is no direct contact between jesus christ and his earthly channell of communication ,namely the wtb&ts , and no direct contact from jehovah god either.. jw`s do not claim to have direct contact with god or jesus christ , isnt that strange ?

after 102 years ruling as king ?.

jesus christ is the greater moses , moses had direct contact with god and his people , so shouldnt the greater moses ,jesus christ have direct contact with his people especially since he is now ruling over them from heaven ?.

eyeuse2badub

Smiddy,

You are just too logical. It all happens by magic within the inner circle of the gb! They never actually tell the rank and file how they arrive at certain doctrine, they just tell them to accept and obey.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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When did "The Truth" become "The Truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me that while the society and witnesses in general use the expression "the truth" for being a witness, it opens a can of worms..... i mean, when did the society become "the truth"?

after all, as we well know (and feel free to list examples please), the doctrines and teachings, and procedures have changed so much since the organisation started, that what was once "truth" is no longer so and vice versa..... maybe the conversation between jesus and pilate was correct : "what is truth?

".

eyeuse2badub

It's never been 'the truth'. It's always been, however, their 'best guess'. Sort of!

just saying!

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" you will never grow old..."

by mrquik in

jw
friends

" you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

i heard it many times after that.

eyeuse2badub

Hey smiddy,

Sounds like we have had very similar experiences in life. I'll soon be 70, 4 great kids and 7 really great grand kids. I too was an ubber dubber for over 5 decades! Gave up on a very promising baseball career, a game that I loved! Raised my kids as ubber dubbers but now that I've escaped the borg, I'm doing my best in a very subtle way to get them to see ttatt!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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"Personal Decisions" (Study Article of July 11-17, 2016)

by bats in the belfry in

concise thoughts from the wtbts.

par.2) however, there are numerous situations for which the bible provides no specific command.. par.3) in the absence of specific laws, how can we know what choices will please jehovah?.

par.16) many matters could be decided one way or another, and jehovah would still be pleased.. .

eyeuse2badub

My personal decision today, based on 'common sense', don't go to the wt meeting!

just saying!

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