I agree with BrentR. The whole thing makes it sound bad and/or dirty. Like you would be defiled from having intimate contact with a woman; almost like implying uncleaness. Funny how being defiled never seemed to bother them when they were raping and pillaging and killing women and children. Makes me wanna spit...
robhic
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"Did not defile themselves with women"
by Legolas inso the 144000, wouldn't you say then are all men?.
i can't remember what crap excuse they gave for that one to get out of it not only being men....but all the writer had to say was 'they were virgins' if it was both sexes.. what do you think?.
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AL-ANON and Me
by compound complex indear friends,.
i have begun reading one day at a time in al-anon, hoping it will help me deal with an alcoholic's destructive behavior, which has been visited upon me and friends for too long a time.
obviously we care about him, but his influence with or without alcohol has shaken us badly.
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robhic
Anything you wish to share about your knowledge of AL-ANON would be appreciated and gratefully acknowledged:
Not just AL-ANON, but treatment as a whole.
My brother was a pretty serious drinker for quite some years. Vodka in his vehicle, never without a glass in his hand. His wife started to follow this also. Needless to say they BOTH needed to stop this and stop it fast. Liquor is a hard task-master...
Well, they enrolled at a detox center, paid for by company insurance. They were lucky. Now this was the result of many, many years of constant drinking. It was their "normal" personality -- cloaked with alchohol.
The (I think) month long treatment had the desired effect. After sobering up and leaving the facility they enrolled in AL-ANON. (I also believe that is a condition of the treatment.)
Three years of sobriety and counting. So far, so good. But .......... I (and others) secretly feel they have given up one addiction (alchohol) for another (AL-ANON).
Their house is now a shrine to all the books about the evils of drinking, etc. They love to talk about their new-found sobriety. Don't get me wrong, this is not, by itself, a bad thing. At least they aren't drinking anymore.
But it reminds me of the "born-agains" who don't know when to SHUT UP!!! I'm glad you aren't drinking, but since I was not and am not afflicted by drunkenness, I don't need to hear the preachy shit all the time. The slogans and all. Give it a rest.
My opinion is that treatment is hugely important, as is an attitude of wanting to do it. It won't work by itself. And afterwards, AL-ANON is a good way to ease back to reality. But don't embrace this new philosophy as your new addiction.
Do it for a while and then ease out of that, too. The first part is real and the last part is (mostly) my opinion. But it does work if you are serious.
Good luck in yout attempt to initiate any sort of intervention...
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Professed Atheists who have helped society
by RWC inthere seem to be quite a number of atheists who comment here.
when they argue how bad religion has been for society they point to actions done in the name of religion that are indeed horrific, such as the inqusitions.
there are also examples of course of non believers who have done great damage to society.
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robhic
MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.
(Above taken from article cited by Nathan Natas)
Regardless of opinions of his veracity, you just gotta love Hitchens' turn of phrase.
"Livestock version of compulsory reproduction." What imagery!
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Witnesses play down transfusions for premature sextuplets
by freefly inhttp://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=fcbed172-f4b3-4d3e-8dc0-1fa34a2c959c&k=1815.
(bc canada).
vancouver - the jehovah's witnesses national organization issued a statement wednesday in an attempt to quell widespread media speculation about the medical treatment of sextuplets born prematurely to a woman at b.c.
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robhic
what is.......minimizing blood sampling......used in the article?
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable will post, but, to me, I am guessing that reducing blood samples taken from babies that are so young and small would be fairly important. Any samples would have an impact as blood-loss in ones so tiny.
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If there is no life after death
by onacruse inso where does that leave us?
leave me?.
the logical consequence would be that i should get absolutely every little piece of self-gratification i can get before i die.
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robhic
Forget my friends, my wife, and any sense of pity for the little-old-lady-down-the-street who I just robbed of her life savings by cutting a hard business deal on her property...anything that lines my pockets with mountains of cold hard cash that gets me drugs and guns and a dozen beachfront properties where I can have sex with as many women and men as I want, any way I want, any time I want...and shot anyone that pisses me off, even on a whim, and just buy off the cops--who themselves are going to die.
I don't really have an answer why one would want to live like that, I suppose it's a personal choice. But, for the most part, you've described what it's like to live here in New Orleans!
People getting shot over a beer (!!!), 14 year olds stabbing a friend in an argument, people getting shot in broad daylight walking with their kids and other such insanity.
The politicians lining their pockets (did anyone miss our wonderful congressman William "Dollar Bill" Jefferson and his $90,000 stored in a freezer?) and the recovery efforts from hurricane Katrina hitting all sorts of roadblocks with the end result of the people not being able to fix their property because they have no money. (Who's got it...?)
When the poor cops do anything more serious than write a traffic ticket they get called on the carpet, people protest (for the life of me I think they just do it to do it, not because they have any idea why they're protesting...), the cops risk going to jail and if they DO manage to catch a bad guy, killer or whatever, some fool of a judge (probably on the take) lets the criminal go.
Why the cops even bother is beyond me. They can't do anything without risking offending someone (so what?), impeding someone's rights or causing some poor killer whose mother says he is such a good boy to become the victim. Why do these people act like this?
Maybe they don't know about the "golden rule." Perhaps some of our "ministers" can show them the way.
I guess people just do what they think they can get away with. Down here it's almost anything, but if you can live with yourself afterwards, well, I guess that's the $64,000 question...
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Pat Robertson Prediction
by robhic ini didn't see this anywhere here, so thought you might be amused by this story.. i was watching fox news this morning.
they had a quick story about ole pat robertson predicting a major terrorist strike in the us sometime after september of 2007. millions would be affected (he didn't specify killed or what, just affected...).
but the kicker was this:.
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robhic
I didn't see this anywhere here, so thought you might be amused by this story.
I was watching Fox news this morning. They had a quick story about ole Pat Robertson predicting a major terrorist strike in the US sometime after September of 2007. Millions would be affected (he didn't specify killed or what, just affected...). But the kicker was this:
God told him so!!! Yep, one of the sky-daddies came and tipped Pat Robertson off to this upcoming attack.
What a dick.
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Do "Christians" really believe the Apostle Peter was crucified upside down?
by booker-t ini have heard this for many years but i just don't know if this is just a belief by a "few" christians are the majority?
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robhic
As a good and impressionable catholic lad (man, was that a long time ago!!!) I was told more than a few times that Peter opted to be crucified upside down because he didn't feel worthy enough to even be crucified like Jesus had been. And whether it was a stake, tree or cross was never addressed so don't ask! ;)
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Why be obedient to god?
by nicolaou inif a creator god is real and he is the source of life well then i would certainly acknowledge that and give him thanks for my existence and for the universe i live in.
but obedience?.
my mum and dad gave me life, ensured my education, looked after my health and wellbeing, loved me, taught me the value of kindness and friendships and so much more.
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robhic
As a grown man with a wife and three children of my own wouldn't it be a bit odd if I always, unquestioningly obeyed my parents?
How about taking it one step further: With a spouse and kids (any number will do), whose parents would demand or even try to get obedience from that child?
As long as you are no longer under their roof or dependent upon them, they have no right to expect obedience to their rules...
OK, maybe obeying rules of conduct and respectfulness while in their home but other than that, I don't think so.
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The Cooling World
by JW_Researcher inarticle also here click here.
can't seem to post the jpg large enough to be read..
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robhic
No, this can't be true. Al Gore, multiply failed US Presidential candidate, says it's warming. And who can dispute this complex science with the likes of a politician? No, better buy some suntan lotion and not a jacket. Al Gore has spoken...and spoken...and spoken...
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Jehovah is like a dead beat dad
by MsMcDucket inthe kids don't know what he looks like or what he's like at all.
other men step in and run the family and you get treated like a stepchild or abused.
you want your real dad to come and get you; he's supposed to be so good; but he never comes.
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robhic
I mean this god person is supposedly omni-present.... so you know he saw the silly snake telling his children it was ok to eat the fruit.... and this god person supposedly know this will hurt his children, and their children...
And when he came looking for A&E, he couldn't find them. The only people in the place and the omniscient one can't even find 'em! Kinda shakes your confidence in the big guy, eh?
...so yeah, what kinda father is he?
He's a bad father, that's what he is. Overly strict in his punishments (death is pretty strict, wouldn't you say?) and way too stingy with his rewards, unless you happen to be a favorite who spends the majority of their time kissing his ass. Some father...