Posts by crinklestein

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Panic Attacks

by rebel in

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i don't know if this subject has been touched on before - i didn't know what section to put it under.. i have to go to the meeting this sunday - basically emotional blackmail by my husband (long story).

i have suffered from panic attacks in the past.

when i don't go to the meetings, and my family do, i get very panicky and breathless.

crinklestein

There are reasons people have panic attacks. Panic is physical reaction to either something that you fear or it's a reaction to a dangerous situation. Your subconcious KNOWS that you should not be there even if you don't realize this. And your subconscious is making you react in this manner so that you remove yourself from the situation. These feelings are there for a reason and you should take them to heart.

Much like standing at the edge of a cliff or the edge of a tall building makes me have a panic attack. That's my brain telling my body to get the hell away from the edge because I could fall and die! And the only way for that feeling to go away is to remove myself from the dangerous situation. This is natural. Follow your feelings. That's why God put them there.

If your husband loves you he will understand this and he will need to respect your wishes. Put your foot down for your RIGHTS and BELIEFS! Don't feel that you HAVE to go. You don't HAVE to do anything that you don't want to. Try turning the tides on him. If you have any hobbies that are usually something only females participate in, tell him that HE HAS TO DO THIS WITH YOU! And then see what he says. If he doesn't like the fact that you're forcing him to do something doesn't like then say, "See? Sucks doesn't it? Now respect my likes and dislike and don't force ME to do something I don't like."

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Elder at my door last night

by JH in

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i was taking a bath, when the door bell rang.

i got out of the bath tub and went close to the window, and saw an elder go back to his car.

the last visit i had was a few days before christmas, from the co and his wife, while visiting our congregation.

crinklestein

Thankless sonsabitches. This was very prevalent in both congregations I had gone to. You start slacking and all they want to do is just mouth the words, "We just want to give you encouragement." But do they actually GIVE you encouragement? No. They just say it. To encourage someone takes actions, not lipservice. You need to do encouraging acts in order to encourage someone. Do they actually think that they are actually encouraging people by "stopping by"? They actually make people feel more guilty because they suggest that you aren't doing good enough. You aren't doing this. You aren't doing that. You NEED to be doing this and that. So we are actually here to tell you that you need to change your ways. You need to do better than you are. And you need to do it now.

THAT'S what they really mean when they "stop by". Well here's a suggestion: Stop by a cliff and hurl your ass over the edge. :) That is all.

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Can Good Exist Without Evil??

by Sargon in

some ponderings:.

the laws of physics tell us that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

good and evil are equal and opposites of the same concept.

crinklestein

So by that rationale nobody will ever be happy if they have the desire to do something else? No. People will always feel the need to do other things. That's human nature: To want and need variety and to do other things. Does that variety need to include bad things just for them to be happy? No.

Adam and Eve were happy. They just saw something else that they could do. They knew it was wrong to do it but they did it anyway. That doesnt mean they weren'y happy before they did it. They just did something else.

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Can Good Exist Without Evil??

by Sargon in

some ponderings:.

the laws of physics tell us that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

good and evil are equal and opposites of the same concept.

crinklestein

Why would good be meaningless if you have nothing opposite to compare it to? It would still be good and it would still cause people to be happy for it. I have no idea what it feels like to be dying of a terminal disease. That doesn't mean I don't have the ability to know that I don't WANT to be dying and to know that I am better off NOT to be dying. I don't NEED to be dying in order to enjoy that fact that I wasn't dying before.

Adam and Eve were happy and satisfied while they lived in Eden and they had no concept of evil. You are linking together things that don't belong. You do not need a basis for comparison or knowlege of some opposite things' existance just to be happy with what you got.

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Watch Tower Finances

by link in

would anyone like to comment on the following observations?.

the very large majority of the jws that i come into contact with on a regular basis are not wealthy and many have very low incomes, yet they still make substantial contributions to the wbts every month.

because they are firmly lead to believe that it is an organisation that is struggling for its financial survival.. following a recent visit from the c.o.

crinklestein

They are NOT in need of any more money than they already get! When I left they had broken the 5 million members mark. If every member gives a dollar at every meeting that is $3 per person per week. $3 times 5 million people is $15 million a WEEK!! They have it good enough as it is.

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Political Corectness must stop

by Adam in

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please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

(the events are actual cuts from past history.

they actually happened!

crinklestein

I'm of the opinion that people need to be offended from time to time. It keeps things in perspective.

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Can Good Exist Without Evil??

by Sargon in

some ponderings:.

the laws of physics tell us that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

good and evil are equal and opposites of the same concept.

crinklestein

This phylosophical arguement has always irritated me. Are you saying that one can't have peace unless there's an opposite environment to compare it against? Are you honestly saying that if a society lived in peace without evil for hundreds of years that, because they haven't had any evil or war to make a COMPARISON against, that they aren't actually living in peace?

Give me a break! Just because you lack data for a comparison doesn't mean that you can't be happy. I could live the rest of my life without evil and war and be happy. If we lived in a eutopia would you actually WANT war and evil just so you a basis for comparison? That is idiotic.

If a brand new company starts up this year...they do ALOT of business...they bring in ALOT of money...they become very successful in what they do...just because they have no data from last year to compare this year to... does that mean that they were NOT successful this year? No! They were still very successful, even though they haven't yet seen failure. They still racked in a ton of money. They still got alot of business. They still got alot of contracts to keep them busy for the next year. But just because of the simple fact that they don't have any figures from last year means nothing and has nothing to do with whether or not they were successful.

In order for you to enjoy a glass of milk, do you have to occassionally drink a glass of SPOILED MILK, just so you say that you are thankful for the GOOD milk that you have now? No.

In order for you enjoy your hamburger, do you occassionally have to get sick from food poisoning from a bad hamburger? No.

In order for your mariage to be a happy one, do you have to suffer years of infidelity by your spouse just so you can have a base of reference of what's bad in a marriage? No.

In order for you to enjoy good health do you have to suffer from a major illness just to have a stupid comparison? No.

I gotta tell ya, I am very happy never having recieved any burns from a fire. I could live the rest of my life and enjoy my burn-free skin. Does this mean that I have to set myself on fire in order to REALLY be happy with that? I don't think so.

This is a stupid phylosophical, unrealistic outlook on peace and happiness. Maybe it's thinking like this that the world is the way that it is.

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Got this letter

by Yesterdays Child in

throughout the years after having come to know through your marriage to my daughter you have been a very kind and thoughtful person, sometimes more than my own son.

i don't think that a mother-in-law could want a finer person for a son than you.

however, it is very unfortunate that i will have to change the way that i will relate to you now and in the future.

crinklestein

What I get a kick out of is that she said Jehovah comes first before anything and anyone. That is unscriptural. The Bible says that a persons family comes FIRST BEFORE God. God comes second.

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Disfellowshiping and Title 7

by Maverick in

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any legal eagles out there have any thoughts on the potential success of a class action lawsuit against the watchtower for their written corporate policy on the treatment of disfellowshipped people?

does their policy fall under religious discrimination as outlined in title 7 of the federal anti-discrimination statues?

i am sure there are many df'd people who have lost jobs and housing and suffered mental anguish as a result of the restrictions of interacting with loves ones and family members.

crinklestein

What amazes me is that people ALLOW the witnesses to control their lives AFTER they are DF'd. It would be their choice if they allowed this to result in their loss of work or housing because they chose to remove themselves from an environment that contained other witnesses.

Dude, if you aren't one anymore why would you allow them to continue to control you??!! If you were fired from a job would you still take orders from your former boss??!! Would you allow him to control where you lived so you wouldn't mingle with his other employees? Or would you tell him where to stick it? It's common sense!!!

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English Elder pokes fun at invalids AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

by Dansk in

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further to isp's recent post, i can confirm that jamie reid of the whitefield, manchester congregation, england has, once again, been making fun of invalids in his congregation.

i spoke face to face with a member of his congregation the other day and he confirmed that the reports are true.. my informant (hereafter known as the "mole") told me that the two brothers elder reid poked fun at are called roy taylor and justin brooks.

roy taylor is said to be devoted to the jws, always out on field service and never misses a meeting.

crinklestein

Of course nothing is done. The elders are immune to the policies they are sworn to uphold. Didn't you get the memo? :) Now tell me how they are different from the Catholic Church...