I married into a very well off family (not for that reason), but I was disfellowshipped the majority of that time. Most witnesses in my area were very poor and actually seemed a bit scared and stand-offish of anyone in the congregation that had money. There were a lot of talks about not pursuing worldly riches and the evils of having too much money. I think they basically ran off all of the rich families with their prejudices because now my ex-in-laws no longer attend meetings and the few other families that were well off are almost totally inactive.
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Did you notice that they were a lot of "rich Witnesses" in the organization
by inquirer ini remember this guy once, after the book study (the one where you go to someone's house to study a book) boasting on this house he wanted to buy!
it made me feel sick!
he was showing off so much!
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JW girls and me
by Dustin ini think i still might have a complex.
so i'm gonna tell my story so you can all laugh at me.
dustin
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JW girls were very easy to pick up, much easier than most "worldly" girls. They would usually pursue even if I wasn't interested and my mom was always annoyed at the JW girls calling me at all times of the night. And I wasn't even that good of a witness, I went to college, and I wasn't really interested in going to bethel or being an elder. But I was still a bit self-righteous and vain when I was a JW teen and turned down most girls interests if they didn't have good reputations or if they weren't very attractive (I know, I know). My JW morals wouldn't allow me to sleep with them. Now I could kiss and fondle as much as I wanted.
From my experiences, there were a lot of wild sex-crazed JW girls. I dated super pioneer girls to fence sitters that had mildly bad reputations. Those were some of the horniest girls I've ever met. I remember two twins from another congregation telling me that they didn't mind sharing, they were very persistant, but I stood my (good witness) ground. Plenty of girls, including upstanding pioneers felt me up in private, or under the table at resturants after field service or an assembly. I went skinny dipping with witness girls a few times, and after a wedding my best friend brought a bunch of girls, that were down from Kansas City, back to his apostate brothers house where we all stripped down to our underwear and sat in the hot tub. Then all of us good witnesses (3 of the girls were pioneers) ended up sleeping with multiple partners, although no sex actually transpired.
Those were strange times. The district conventions were definitely a time to find girls. My friend and I would search out the ones that we thought were most attractive and he'd always introduce us because I was never really that forward. But there were plenty of girls that weren't interested in us once they found out we were baptised. I guess they figured baptised boys wouldn't put out as easily or we might tell on ourselves if we got a conscience tinge. I ended up marrying a bad witness girl, most were. But that didn't end so well either. I advise dating "worldly girls" because they don't have as many pent up issues like a lot of witnesses do.
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Who was told that the New order would be here before......................
by avishai inthey finished high school?
college?
etc and what year were you told?.
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I was told, like everyone else that I wouldn't get through Junior High before Armageddon hit, then High School, but after I graduated High School in 93' my mom never really told me anything else about when the end was coming. Though plenty of people in the hall told me it was a big mistake when I started college because Armageddon was just around the corner and I should be pioneering.
Another instance was in 1996, right before I was disfellowshipped the first time. I was out in service with my best friend and some of my other good friends and a ministerial servant. We were talking about how we'd been told that armageddon would be here at different stages of time throughout our school years by various people and how it hadn't transpired yet. The ministerial servant, who was in his early 40's at the time, was getting uncomfortable and stated that he knew for a fact that the new system would be here by 2000 and if it weren't then he'd be convinced it wasn't the truth. But what really happened is that after 2000 came and went and there was no armageddon, he decided that he was annointed and started partaking at the memorial and now he's treated like royalty wherever he goes. It's quite funny.
On a slight off topic, when I started college and everyone was telling me that it was a bad idea because the end was near I was interested in archeology, and one of the ministerial brothers I was working with told me not be interested in such a thing because it promoted evolution and and the fallacy of dinosaurs, which he said was a government conspiracy to brainwash society to believe evolution because in reality the world was only 7000 years old and there was never such a thing as dinosaurs. It sounded pretty retarded to me at the time, I didn't think that such ignorance still existed in this age.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses keep records on people?
by inquirer ini have known some people (i dont' know if it's true or not) [and i am the kind of person that doesn't like to cause trouble] who have said that jehovah's witnesses keep tabs/records on people.
all the things they have done like if they got babtized, personal problems/experiences, arguments they may had with people, and just their general conduct as well.
have any people here found out about a "black book" where they keep records on you?
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I was told the details on the files are very graphic ...if for example it's a case dealing with fornication...they make a note of what positions the act was in, how many orgasms...was it one or were they multiple...how long the act took place...
I wonder if those files are all sticky and stuck together.
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Shunning via US Postal Service
by Thechickennest inin today's mail came a envelope from ms. b[edit] c[edit] of rawlins, wyoming.
betty and her family were our longtime associates while were in the cult of jehovah's witnesses.
enclosed were photographs of my wife, daughter, myself and my wife's sister.
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You should write them back thanking them for showing what true christian love they have, you can say that because of their petty actions they disuaded you from making the comeback that you'd been thinking of because you wanted to get reinstated, but now you won't because you've been stumbled and they'll be blood-guilty come armageddon.
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What's next for the Watchtower in 2005?
by truthseeker inafter all the events of 2004 regarding the botchtower, what do you think will happen next year?.
i can think of a few events.. first of all, 70 years will have passed since rutherflawed took on the name "jehovah's witnesses" - a gross misapplication of that scripture in isaiah.. all the new man presses will be operational - already, the wt have increased their watchtower circulation.. "godly obedience" district convention next summer - we all know what that will be about; and don't forget the layman's km article on how to book a hotel, and not just any hotel at that either.. a new book to replace "organised to accomplish our ministry".
bro barr of the governing body turns 100 (i think this is correct).
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JR Bob Dobbs said:
I love you all... May Jehovah Rebuke You!
Hahahahahahahah. I don't know what to say, it just struck me as really funny. Thanks for the judgement. We'll all try to follow the loving example you've showed so far.
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The universe, designed to support life?
by Elsewhere ini have heard many creationists say: "just look at the universe!
there are so many things about it that have to be just right for it to be able to support life.
an interesting point, so i did a bit of basic math:.
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Yeah, when I was a kid I could never wrap my brain around a god that had existed forever, being the fact that I was told that, other than the angels, humans were god's only intelligent creation, ever. I thought and thought and could not understand how anything could exist for an infinite past. According to the witnesses, although they don't seem to think about it, before anything was created, god was just sitting around doing nothing in a big pile of nothing, not for a million years, not for a billion years, not a trillion years, but much longer than that, he was sitting around doing nothing for an infinite past twidling his godly thumbs until after an unfathomable eternity decided to make the Universe in just a very short time and then sits around doing nothing for awhile more. I still can't understand that thinking.
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I Love It When The Words Are Wrong..
by Englishman inmy old boss was forever going on about us being careful "not to set any presidents".. hl's friend's ex-hubby needs some surgery on his knee to have "his cartridge removed".
she's signed an affy-david as part of the divorce process.
meanwhile he spends his time in night clubs watching the cadbury.. jenny, the pub's landlady, took the quiz a couple of weeks back and questioned us about "far from the maddening crowd".
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There was an elder in the congregation I grew up in that was from Maine, although I don't know if that had anything to do with his particular dialect. But all the long A's and AH's at the end of his words turned into ER's when he pronounced them. Such as Jehovah turned into Jehover, as well as names such as Anna and Jessica turned into Anner and Jessicer. His public talks and prayers were funny just because of the way he pronounced Jehover throughout the talk.
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Name Things That You Can Be Counseled For
by minimus ini'll start.......a woman wearing a skirt higher than her knee and a child crying during a meeting
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I got counseled just this last summer when I was best man at my brother's wedding. He couldn't really have his wedding at a Kingdom Hall because I was the best man, which was good for him because he didn't want it there anyways. I'm not disfellowshipped any longer, but I have faded and I haven't been to a meeting in 2 1/2 years, so I'm not really considered someone to be hanging out with. I have a shaved head and a goatee and that was the biggest controversy. The elders decided that even though I hadn't been to the meetings in years and even though the wedding wasn't going to be held at a hall, I still needed to be counseled on my goatee.
So at the rehearsal dinner, the elders convinced my future sister-in-law to ask me to shave it. I told her I had no intentions of shaving it. Then they got my mom to ask me to shave it, so I told her the same thing. An elder came and told me that I needed to shave it, to which I said I didn't see anything wrong with it according to any biblical principles. Everyone looked so dour and downcast all because I had a goatee, they acted as though it was going to ruin the whole wedding.
During the night and morning between the rehearsal and wedding I got four calls, two from my mother asking me to shave it and two from my brother. So I finally decided that I'd shave it for my brother since my goatee had such earth shattering implications and would destroy the whole wedding. Right after I got done shaving my goatee my brother called and told me he had good news. The elders had met together and decided that my keeping the goatee wouldn't have such serious implications as previously thought, so I could keep it. Too late. Yeck, that's the last witness gathering that I ever attend.
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Scot Peterson
by Valis in.
gets the death penalty...and i think he should go away..even if he didn't want the baby or to be with her, he could of left and beent he one to disappear, but no i think he's just greedy, callous, and not remoursefull... sincerely,.
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I suppose insults and blanket statement stereotypes are your ideas of being civilized, Google?