The universe, designed to support life?

Elsewhere

I have heard many creationists say: "Just look at the universe! There are so many things about it that have to be just right for it to be able to support life. This is why I believe in a creator."

An interesting point, so I did a bit of basic math:

The volume of our solar system is: 8.662 x 10^29 Cubic Kilometers
The volume of the earth that is capable of supporting life is: 102,643,270,042.213 Cubic Kilometers

A bit of simple division reveals that only 0.0000000000000000012% of our solar system is capable of supporting life.

This calculation does not even count the rest of the volume of the universe. It seems to me that the universe, contrary to what creationists say, is very hostile to life. It is nearly impossible to find any area where life can survive.

Pole

If I win in a lottery, does that mean it was designed for me to win it at a specific time and place?

Carmel

Else,

Perhaps your calculations are a better argument for the creationists than theirs! In spite of the universe's overwhelming hostility to life as we know it, we live on an improbable island (probably a few more like us) that conflicts with logic and reason for its appearance or continued existence.

carmel

Elsewhere

Throughout the universe there are countless interactions between countless atoms and molecules.

With that many interactions going on it is inevitable for small pockets of order to form. We just happen to be one of those little pockets. The bottom line is that these pockets of order or extraordinarily rare in the universe, and hence my point.

When you get change back after buying something, what are the odds that those particular coins would just happen to come together in your hand in that moment? The odds are extraordinarily minute... yet it happened. Why? Because, with so many transaction occurring in so many places around the world, that particular arrangement of coins was inevitable... but of course it only happened in your hand and not everyone else's.

one

A bit of simple division reveals that only 0.0000000000000000012% of our solar system is capable of supporting life.

What kind of life?

it is much less than that for human life, as it is not NATURALLY supported.

"Nature" is much more benign with animal life in this tiny piece of the solar system.

undercover

but, but, but.....our universe is so complicated.

How can things that came together to create life happen by accident? Take a pocket watch for example. An intricate piece of equipment. Designed and built to keep time. If you put all the gears and doodads in a box and shook it up for a million years, it would never all into place as a working timepiece. Our universe and the planet Earth and the life systems on it are much more complicated than a watch.

(see. I did listen to the Sunday talks )

one

If you put all the gears and doodads in a box and shook it up for a million years, it would never all into place as a working timepiece.

Not that i am an expert buy biology and mechanics are not the same. Such wt analogy(?) was good for silly jw, as we were.

Satanus

The watch parts shaking analagy is out of wack, imo. There are millions of 'factories' throughout the univers that are assembling elements. These factories are stars that were born out of coalesced hydrogen, which floats around the galaxy in big clouds called nebulae. These factories work at the nano level, fusing together hydrogen atoms to produce more complex elements. All the various elements, the building blocks of nature, originated from there.

The star analogy ko's the wt's silly watch thingy, because it's a fact.

S

Carmel

Else, why is it "inevitable" that life as we know it would form by chance in one or more pockets of the universe? By what standard is it inevitable? Certainly not a mathematical certainty. If not what?

carmel

Elsewhere

Given enough time, everything is a mathematical certainty.

The universe, designed to support life?

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