There was this one JW wedding I attended where the bride & groom probably weighed 550 lbs between them. The elder giving the talk included a whole discussion about how in Bible times the ' b ride price' was measured in cows. He just kept comparing the bride to a cow... it was awful. Later at the reception the bride sang 'Do it to me one more time' to the groom. She could not sing - it was truly embarrassing.
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Were you married at the Kingdom Hall ? How bad was your wedding reception ?
by run dont walk ini'm just wondering...... i remember going to some wedding receptions for couples who got married at the kingdom hall,.
and i hate to be mean but, super boring, and bad, how bad you ask ??
ok here we go ..... - the worst had to be one couple played kingdom meolodies for their wedding dances, i couldn't believe it.. - no alcohol (i'm sure we all experienced a few of these), reception was over by 9:30.. - no music at all, just a gathering of people, and they ended the reception with a prayer, i thought i was at an assembly.. - food, like if you can't afford to get married don't, like frozen stuff bought at your local grocery store, and still in the package when you got up to the tables, how tacky.. - you could always tell a couple who couldn't afford much, when you had to drive 50 miles into the back woods to find some dinky little community hall they rented for $100.. - i remember one where the bride was pregnant, i was really surprised they allowed them to use the kingdom hall.. - another classic was, they had this band (of all jw's of course) and man they were bad.
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Do You Struggle With Depression???
by minimus ini know more persons that are depressed than i know that are not.
whether a person was a witness or not, so many are affected with depression.
i've read here that many jw's were on either regular medication or silently accepted their depression with much prayer and tears.
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I did - mildly while I was an active JW and then went through a severe bout during the process of leaving. I liken it to going through a divorce because you found out the love of your life was not who you thought he/she was and that you'd been living a lie for years. It's more like a mourning process I think. At least it was for me.
I sought help and got it! It took awhile to get over the hurt. Now the only time I feel depressed is when my JW family deliberately slanders my name because I no longer believe the lie. Even so, what once used to be a giant boulder blocking my path is now a pebble I can kick out of my way. I'm grateful for that.
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What Book(s) Changed Your Life?
by MrsQ ini don't mean an epiphany, necessarily--although that does count.
i mean, what books came along and just changed the way you look at things.
still life with woodpecker (tom robbins).
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1. Crisis of Conscience - Ray Franz (Goes without saying)
2. The Jesus I never knew - Philip Yancey (Discovered the real Jesus of the Bible)
3. Co-dependant No More - Melanie Beattie (I'm not crazy, everyone else is)
4. What it Means to be a Libertarian - Charles Murray (started my interest in politics)
5. Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton - Barbara Olsen (Didn't change my life but sure loved the book!!)
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Whats the craziest thing you've done at the Kingdom hall?
by yxl1 ini was given the "privilege" to open the kh early to switch on the heating.
they even gave me my own set of keys.. every saturday night, me and another jw would drive to the kh with our amps and guitars and .
jam until the early morning, using the stage and the kh's pa system.
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Confessed my 'sins' to a body of 3 perverts in the back room.
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Drugs?
by be wise ini think this is my first debatable topic.
for anyone who has experimented with recreational drugs or who knows about someone who has how do you think they can change you for the better as well as for the worse?
i know a few ways in which they really changed me, i was very shy and never felt compfortable around people until i had my first experience and felt totally unhibited around a room full of people (talking in retrospect) and i never forgot what that felt like - it opened my mind and i learned to become much more confident.
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I tried lots of different drugs in high school. But to me it was just something to do once in awhile with my girlfriends for a good giggle. I stopped all together when some of my friends started taking it seriously and regularly. Some of them never recovered. Just not my bag baby.
When it comes to MJ, I don't personally use it but I'm not judgmental about it. To me it's like alcohol. I don't mind it when it's used responsibly. I don't think it should be illegal.
Now, when it comes to drugs such as speed, cocaine, crack, X, heroin and the rest I have to be honest and say I HATE them. I've seen first hand the lives those types of drugs have ruined. They serve no useful purpose for society. I don't think they can ever be used responsibly because they are highly addictive and cause destructive behavior. If I had one wish it would be that those types of drugs simply didn't exist. What a difference it would make for so many individuals, families and communities.
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How Screwed Up Are You Because You Were A Jehovah's Witness???
by minimus inafter reading so many experiences about how being a jw affected a person's life, i wonder how your life has turned out because you were at one time a witness.
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It's ironic really. My mother was disfellowshipped when I was 12. She was completely shunned by the family when she needed them most. It devastated her emotionally which affected her ability to parent.
This inability to parent led to emotional neglect of her children which lead to dysfunctional children. When I was 19 I got baptized so I could have some kind of stability in my life. I do admit that being a JW helped me to grow up, stay off drugs and avoid pregnancy. The org was like the parents I never had in a way. However, once I grew up I found the 'parent' too controlling & manipulative and I needed to get out on my own.
I'm thankful that I've come this far. I don't know what would have become of me if I had not become a witness. However, I don't know what would have become of me had I stayed a witness. My life has so much more joy & meaning now.
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What was the "final straw" that made you leave the JW's ??????
by run dont walk inwhat happened or was said, that made you decide, enough is enough, i am out of here ?????
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Here is a bit of a breakdown of the events:
1. During the 3rd study of the Revelation book at the book study the point was made that the 'locusts' stings' were somehow books & magazines placed by JW's. I remember thinking 'This is pure bullshit'. I almost said it out loud! I was shocked at my own feelings and quickly buried my doubt.
2. The whole new light on the generation thing. Suddenly I was struck with a conscience guilt that I had participated in preaching a lie about God. I started listening to my gut feelings at the meetings instead of taking everything at face value.
3. Another book study meeting - point was brought out the Jesus Christ is not my mediator but only the mediator for the anointed. My mediator was the anointed WTBS. That was a slap in the face! I just knew, in my gut that this could not be true. No way. We had someone in our congregation that professed to be of the anointed and he was practically worshipped by all. He was a real slick and took advantage of people financially. Me included.
4. Got involved with a worldly man at work. Unbeknownst to me, he was married. I found out, was devastated & repentant, went to the elders to confess and during my JC I was told that Jehovah might not forgive me for interfering with a marriage and I would just have to 'wait & see if I survive Armageddon. I was crushed.
5. Went into a depression fog, got sick and started missing meetings. Woke up one day and declared to myself that I would never go out in service again. But still went to meetings off & on. Felt crushed and dejected. Speaker at the circuit assembly said that 'Jehovah didn't want servants that were wishy-washy or moping or sad - that He would reject them, spit them out.' I felt that he was talking to me.
6. Took a vacation that lead me to visit my Aunt & Uncle who are genuine Christians (the non-denominational kind). My Aunt started talking to me about the 'real Jesus'. Felt a weight lifted off my shoulders and a happiness I hadn't felt in years. Couldn't ignore that the elders had spiritually abused me and this person who so-called belonged to 'Babylon the Great' had nourished me spiritually and restored my joy.
7. Came home from vacation and bought a computer. Started to read up on the organization. Felt another weight lifted off of me. Knowing that it couldn't be 'the truth'.
8. Confessed to my JW family that I lost faith in the WTBS, that I thought they were Pharisees. Didn't go over well. My cousin immediately started gossiping to any who would listen that I was an apostate.
9. Decided right there and then that I would never attend another meeting. I said good-bye to close friends but kept the door open for them if they ever wanted to talk to me again. (two of them did, by the way and left the org as well)
10. Got on with my life, never looked back, put faith in Jesus and have enjoyed more blessings since then that I could have ever imagined.
The end - rather, the beginning....
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How Do You Feel About Jehovah's Witnesses???
by minimus innearly everyone that posts here says mostly negative things about the witnesses.
a few will speak of certain jw's that were helpful to them while they were going through difficulties.
in the situation that you find yourself in now, do you feel that you hate jw's?
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Francois don't hold back! Tell us how you really feel! ... By the way, WELL SAID!
While I still love my JW family I do hold them in contempt for their horrible actions in shunning my mother (who never recovered) and how they treat non-JW family (Like garbage). Most of these people are not stupid and must know deep down inside that what they are doing is wrong and so unchristian. But they cover their eyes with false righteousness so as to not have to deal compassionately with people who have real problems.
I think JW's are, as a whole, very selfish people.
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"Lord Lord did we not prophesy in your name and expel demons in your name?"
by truthseeker ini would like to know if anyone can help me with this question.
presumably in the last days when jesus arrives as judge and executioner, he says the famous scripture, "many will say to me in that day, lord, lord, did we not prophesy in your name and expel demons in your name and perform many powerful works in your name?
and then i will confess to them, 'i never knew you, get away from me you workers of lawlessness'".
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I really believe that means that even though they expelled demons in his name and did other works, they did those works absent sincere love for truth, beauty and goodness...just like the WTBTS acts today.
I agree wholeheartedly! JW's are fantastic at works but suck at love.
I can picture a JW saying to Jesus: "Lord, did I not put in 90 hours a month preaching, place 25 magazines a week and attend all the meetings in your name?" ... I see Jesus looking over at the poor and lonely sheep that were cast off, uncared for by the WTS and saying "What does that matter to me? I told you to love one another."
Real Christian works are manifestations of love to further Jesus' interests. JW works are hollow methods to further the society's interests.
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The PO and CO visit me....new light!!??
by truman ini am just going to have to start keeping my front door closed.
today, i had it open, and there was no way to pretend i wasn't home when the two 'brothers' rang my door bell.
actually, they had been by last saturday, too, but the door was closed that day, and i didn't answer it.
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He stressed the terrorist angle as being the impetus for the political powers to turn on religion, and said that most people would not protest, since few consider attendance to church vital and they will sacrifice liberties like this for personal security if necessary.
Ummmmm, okay. While I used to believe this kind of tripe - now that I've had opportunity to actually get to know people of other faiths, I find it incredibly hard to believe that the majority of Christians, Jews or mainstream Muslims will just roll over and play dead when it comes to their freedom to worship. National security or not!
Or in the highly unlikely chance that the terrorists take over our nation (and other democratic societies) that every single person of faith will convert to Islam rather than face execution, all except those JW's who will be the only ones protesting. Yeah right! The Watchtower heavily underestimates the power that belief in Jesus Christ has in people's lives and what they would sacrifice for Him with or without church attendance. On the other hand, without direction from the watchtower society, most J-dumbs would be lost as to what to do with themselves.
IMO - for whatever it's worth!!