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  Is this plausible?

  by JNS2 in

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  i assume a high percentage of those that post & read posts here are either still witnesses, disfellowshipped, disassociated, or just drifted away from the organization.

  i'm sure many of us remember well the beliefs of the wts about the scenario leading up to armageddon & i wonder how many of us still think about that kind of thing.

  i recall the idea that there would be a declaration of peace & security & every time i hear a political leader or un leader use terms like that my ears perk up.

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  I do not worry about any word of peace and security in fact I hardly watch the news these days except that i get my news from cnn.com one in a while. Even though I do care of what's going on in the world. If you consider yourself a cristian, think that a cristian is a person who is waiting for his master Christ to return. Upon his return he will take all cristian s or who have faith in him (not like what the WT says) to be with him, and after that it is armageddon like the witnesses say. Do you want to be around when that come. Not me, I want to be with the lord. See in Zephaniah, all the inhabitant earth will go trough men and beast.

  I do not want to debate on doctrines. For my self I think if the Lord comes I'm waiting for him, if he does not come in my life time, I'll see him after I die either case I'm in peace. Love God and Love your neighbors that's all that matters.

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  When Cowards Run a Religion

  by metatron in

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  once upon a time, judge rutherford stood before a crowd in madison square garden.

  the audience included many catholic action types who could have easily included an assassin.

  the judge may have been a lot of things (well,..... drunk, ego-manical, adulterous, and dishonest, actually) but he wasn't a coward.

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  Over the years I have seen how the society has tryed to be politically correct. I have seen how they are paranoi. I realised at the time when i went to the asembly they are trying to defend themself against the critiques or apostats. I was thinking that the apostats are doing a good jobs. However I think most JW did not have a clue or what was going on.

  When I heard at the KH some speakers saying some apostats said this, I was wondering where the heck they get these information, it's only for the last 2 years i figured it out it was from the internet.

  Yes the society will be coming more paranoi in the future.

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  I cried like a baby today...

  by reallylost in

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  2. relationships

  yeah...26 years old, 210lbs, strong, smart, thought i had it all figured out...and crying like a baby...omg...i'm falling apart at the seams..... .

  ok, here's why: i met the girl of my dreams.

  absolutely gorgeous, smart, witty, no kids (not that i don't like kids, it's just that i won't be a "just-add-dad" again), succesfull...anyway, we met through my cousin at a bar (he's thinking about buying it and invited some people to go with him for like a second opinion, and his wife invited this girl).

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  I understand the situation you are in. A few weeks ago I had the choice to go out with a JW girl or someone outside the organization and at the same I want to be out of it. What shall i do? Well i prayed about it and i realize that i can not spend a year or 2 in this organization before I leave, it is unbereable to say the least spending time at the meetings. So i thought meeting this worldly girl was an answer to my prayer. She is the person i had been waiting for, we have so much in common although a catholic, she is a very spiritual person.

  Well if you don't want to get involve with the religion, ask her if it does matter to her that you don't become a JW. If you ever decide to go along with her you have to respect her belief but the consequences could be very high and in the long run and you might regret it. However love has it's own reasonning.

  As i for me I will not marry a JW I found it's not worth it.

  Good luck
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  Who read the WHOLE bible at least once?

  by JH in

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  how often did they tell us that we should at least once read the whole bible from cover to cover.. i never did that, why, because i was overloaded with meetings and field service, and my job.. did you??

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  I read the bible once from cover to cover before i was a JW and once also as a JW. Since I'm always a firm believer in God no matter how hard I tried to think that God does not exist I see the more evidence that he is there. But as human creature I believe that God will not judge human harshly compare with the Angels that can see God himself and us we have to go by faith and on doctrine this world is a mess enough not to make you believe in a creature. So just to say I'll be out of this organization soon and I plan with my girlfriend to read it together since as a catholic she never read it once. It will be a true bible study.

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  Paradise Earth

  by kingdomseeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm new here (not a baptized jw) and was just wondering about those in here who are against the jws.

  does it mean you no longer wish to live in the kingdom that jesus christ preached about -- the paradise earth conditions before adam and eve sinned?.

  ... does it mean you all now believe what christendom teaches about the future -- heaven & hell?

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  Kingdomseeker, welcome on board!

  Keep searching you'll find the kingdom of God. Definitely it is not what the JW is saying. I have done research about this organization and I end up seeing all their lies and cover ups. I can't trust them. Now they do everything to keep the organization alive and not to loose their credibility. Well God knows and along with all people that are doing research they are false teacher. If they had they truth I would have stayed with them but they don't.

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  Damage Control

  by gitasatsangha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a close friend who left the borg before i did.

  when it he made his choice, i was still having my own doubts.

  but, the way he left was so abrupt, i did about the worst thing i ever have.

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  Don't blame yourself too much, remember the society still controls some of our emotions with years of indoctrinations and the more you believed they had the truth the more you might have acted their ways.I know there is a disfellowship person in my hall everytime i see him at the kingdom hall I would make a sign to him. But in your case the past is the past. Since you asked to be forgiven I don't think your friend will hold it against you.

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  Why do some of you get so worked up over this, JW's control relies on lack

  by Its so simple in

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  personal growth.

  most people are angry at themselves for not seeing it sooner and they just blame the wtbs.

  if it was not them there would be something else that 'filled their need' and would have ensnared them.

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  They society is a con artist, really good are what they're doing; deceiving people, getting them into their organization. It's all marketing strategic after all what else do you expect from a publishing company. The selling of a product is all the after making money but for the spiritual person they say we have the blessing of the Holy spirit. Why do you think they need statistic for everything again to control their expenses and see which area they can get better. But the con artitst has been demasked. It's up to us to their true face.

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  What a journey this has been?

  by amen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a journey this has been?

  i am reflecting over the years that i spent as a jehovah's witness today mark a decade and a half.

  i find it incredible that i would come to this situation.

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  Again thanks to all,

  There is one thing I would like to say is, that once a person has completely trust in an organization it is hard to make them think otherwise. When I started to share some of my believes with one of my friends who are a JW but we were long times friends before we became witnesses I was expecting a friend above all a guy that would have an ear of what I have to say but instead they feared me. For example, my friend and his wife who are a JW were invited to a party at a worldly friend. So every one was worldly except for the 3 of us and one friend that used to study and became an unbaptised publisher but never got baptised. So I decided to see my friend and his wife first an later together we could go to the party together since we were all invited.

  When I stepped in I knew right away their attitude have changed toward me it was cold they forced themself to act as normal as possible but they could not hide it from me, then the question came am I going to stay at his place for the night after the party or at my other friend I knew right away they did not want me to stay so after the party was over I went to my other friend's house and he told me did you realise that every room you been too that my friend and his wife swicthed to another location. I don't have to tell you how hurt I was even him could see that.

  The thing is that's the guy that can tell you openly he does not agree that the governing body is lead by the Holy Spirit, and at the time he told me this I even think he was blaspeming although never told him.

  One of this day I will write my story and I'm telling you I having stabbed many times. Lucky for me I have never put my trust completely to the organization. I saw misused of biblical text at circuit overseer meeting that blew me away and I knew then they are dangerous and controlling people's mind. Those are a serie of event that would lead me to verify their saying more closely.

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  What a journey this has been?

  by amen in

  1. jw
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  what a journey this has been?

  i am reflecting over the years that i spent as a jehovah's witness today mark a decade and a half.

  i find it incredible that i would come to this situation.

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  Thanks Everyone for your warmth welcome to this board. I would like to tell my story, but I know the elders surf the internet and and they might know who I am and I don't want to jeaopardize anything at this time. Once I'm out for good I will.

  Sweet freedom is coming, Woe to the organization, their sins have been piled up to heavens. I do not want to be part of the plagues that is coming upon them. Yes I'm out soooon, oohhh sweet freedom. Come soon.

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  What a journey this has been?

  by amen in

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  what a journey this has been?

  i am reflecting over the years that i spent as a jehovah's witness today mark a decade and a half.

  i find it incredible that i would come to this situation.

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  What a journey this has been? I am reflecting over the years that I spent as a Jehovah's witness today mark a decade and a half. I find it incredible that I would come to this situation. I have no options but to leave an organization that lied, cheated, deceived his members. How foolish I was during those years to believe that God had a special organization.

  Yes it is count down for me. I'm sad and happy and I have no fears for my future. I'm looking forward to that new life and my faith in God is as strong as ever. However religious institutions disgust me alot than I know they have some goods out of it. Yes, soon I'll be free. I can't hardly wait for that moment. The joy that is awaiting me is this: no more controling by policemen of the WT, no more worship of an organization.

  Yes freedom is here soon. But i know they will go after me. But the WT had shown me how to fight in the ring that is their legacy they have left me.

  Amen