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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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I believe in spirits and thus Satan
Given name: Lucifer
Other names: Dawn, Shining One, Satan the Devil (resister and slanderer)
Appointed position: Cherub, appointed over planet Earth prior to the Fall
Current position: Fallen angel, god of this system of things
Occupation: to prevent prophecy from being fulfilled and turn everyone away from God
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Anyone here have any experience with the "super-natural"?
by Knowsnothing inand if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.
i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.
yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.
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Focariedu21
I am sorry to hear about what your family is going through, all I can say is to keep praying and pray out loud and if that doesn't work, find someone of faith who can pray for you.
A relative of mine was recently harassed by demons/converts and I was able to find someone to help take care of the situation.
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Anyone here have any experience with the "super-natural"?
by Knowsnothing inand if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.
i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.
yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.
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Yes, I have experienced the "supernatural"
This is a good website that will explain why certain people experience these things
http://www.nightwatchmanchronicles.com/INT/DianaPossession.htm
In a recent poll conducted by America Online, participants were asked the question, "Do you believe demonic possession happens?" 72% said they do believe possession happens and only a mere 28% of people polled said they didn't believe demonic possession happens.
In a recent case in which a homeowner had been plagued by demonic activity for the better part of 20 years, he asked, "Why do demons pick a particular person or place and stay for so long?"
The answer is not easy to explain. If you consider that there are millions and millions of people on this planet that never experience this type of phenomena, it tells you that there is a selection process that takes place. That being said, what makes a good "target"? Four things are to be considered.
1. The person or persons themselves.
2. The dwelling that they seek to possess as their own
3. The risk of being expelled or ousted.
4. Physical objects being brought into the home. If you break the above four down, it goes like this:
1) Is there someone in the home that's opening the door? Did they use a Ouija board, and in effect, stick their hand blindly into the spirit realm? When that is done incorrectly, the hand can be latched onto by the wrong side. They could be practicing witchcraft or sorcery or worshipping gods other than the Creator? Are they committing acts that would be considered vile or criminal? Or, it could be a simple attraction by a demon that is attracted to a female living in a residence. Or, perhaps it's a female legionnaire that is attracted to a male living in a residence. They can also be brought back with someone from somewhere else. The person might have gone somewhere and were consequently followed back. Or, they could have been sent one by an agent of Satan. It might be from the top rung of the ladder, or all the way down to the bottom rung of the ladder and an all out hooded devil worshiper.
Maybe they are offended, or seeking to cause the person problems so they can move up in a job; or any number of reasons in which they might use Black Magic against them. Demons can also simply take a dislike to certain people. The person might have said something one heard and did not like. They (the demons) are like people. If they take a dislike to someone, it gets personal with them. They will remain where that person is and stay until they are either ousted or the person passes over.
2) Demons, many of them, want to be back on Earth as humans. At least those from the Biblical pre-flood days. They might try and fool you into thinking they are ghosts. Or, they might just harass you. Like Cosby said in an episode, "The kids want the house!" The demons might want your dwelling. It's rare, but it happens. Sometimes they also stay where a person has died. It might have been a murder, or suicide, or just a normal passing. But they seek to fool people into believing they are that person. And some demons are lunatics - just like some people are. They will try to drive people insane because those demons hate humans. They blame them for the Judgment hanging over their heads. They seek revenge.
3) If the risk is low of being expelled, exorcised - ousted or whatever else might happen that would cause them to have to leave, then that dwelling is a safe bet to inhabit. There is sometimes no rhyme or reason for them picking certain individuals. But to correctly assess why they might have come there in the first place, all factors must be taken into account. If all else fails, it was a draw of the deck. The person's card got picked by pure chance.
4) Lastly, there is the chance of physical objects having demons attached to them. They consider that object their own. If you buy it, or someone gives it to you, the demon or demons go with it. If you destroy it, you are in BIG trouble with those demons. And concerning these types of demons, Satan considered them the most unruly of his lot. They want to do what they want to do, not what they are told. So, many times Satan lets them go their way. They still add fuel to his myths of demons being powerful. But, Satan has the power to pull them to him. Satan actually is less in power than he likes people to believe, but he's more powerful than his confederates.
The most important thing to know when faced with having to combat demons is that it's fear that is the most powerful weapon Satan and his demons possess. Coupled with the belief that demons can do harm to you and you are in for trouble.
In so many cases in which you read about demonic activity, those being harassed become afraid of the dark because they fear the evil they believe lurks there. In reality, that evil is present even in the daylight. But the very belief that they feel they are vulnerable is what gives the demons the opening they need to harass someone. To combat them, that fear should be shut out. But, there is healthy fear also. It is fear generated from the natural instinct to survive. For example, you hear a window shattered in the middle of the night. That fear that you feel is for your safety. That is the difference. It is a different kind of fear. The other fear is generated by the mind, and it is a fear of the unknown of the spiritual world. That is the fear that Satan and his demons are permitted to work off of. It is not a healthy fear. It's detrimental.
Something else about this type of fear is that the demons can literally smell it. It is their cue that a person's mind's door is open to attack. Under the Creator's Rules, it gives them the right to enter your presence of mind. During that period, they can and will test you. It can be lengthy, which is why it's so important to shut out that type of fear. Don't provide the very thing the demons can and will use against you. The fact that Satan is powerful, but limited as to how he can use those powers, gives reason enough to keep the door closed to him. With the door closed, he is powerless; otherwise, he is very powerful.
It is best for a person under attack to do their own prayer for help. Whether intervention will help to end the demonic attack is determined by many factors. -
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Topics 10 yrs. ago and topics today, what A difference
by jam ini was reviewing some of the topics 10yrs.
ago, notice most of.
topics were rater mild in regard to the witnesses..today, wow,.
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The forum has matured.
There is no need to debate old doctine as this has already been done and is in the "Best of" section.
New organizational changes will always be discussed.
And yes, the governing body has got more draconain and extreme.
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Anyone ever fake ring the doorbell when going door to door?
by foolsparadise inwhen i used to pioneer i would press to the side of the doorbell and act like i pressed it and then say "oh i think the bell must be broken".
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Yes, in the last two years I was an active dub. I would also knock softly if there was no bell.
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Could recently discovered codices prove once and for all that Jesus died on a cross?
by truthseeker inthis find, if genuine, is significant.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110330/ts_yblog_thelookout/could-lead-codices-prove-the-major-discovery-of-christian-history.
how would the watchtower react if evidence suggests that jesus died on a cross?
this would mean they lied to millions of their members saying that the instrument of jesus' execution was nothing more than a stake, an upright pole.. .
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This find, if genuine, is SIGNIFICANT.
How would the Watchtower react if evidence suggests that Jesus died on a cross? This would mean they lied to millions of their members saying that the instrument of Jesus' execution was nothing more than a stake, an upright pole.
Meanwhile, biblical scholars who have examined the codices point to significant textual evidence suggesting their early Christian origin. Philip Davies, emeritus professor of Old Testament Studies at Sheffield University, told Pigott he was "dumbstruck" at the sight of plates representing a picture map of ancient Jerusalem. "There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city," Davies explained. "There are walls depicted on other pages of these books, too, and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem."
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Good news for a change....
by ProdigalSon inamidst all the tragedy and bad news lately, i thought i would share something positive.
for those of you who are aware that we are not alone in this universe and that there is a hierarchy of "angels" looking out for us, that disclosure is imminent and that we are headed for a much better world where selfishness and greed are no longer the norm, where mankind will live in peace upon a "paradise earth", free from the wretched clutches of the dark ruling elite (yes, i am talking about the fall of "babylon the great"), then this news is for you: the "elohim" have everything fully under control.. for you skeptics, this is channeled information.
if you think this is foolish, please try to keep your negativity and ad hominem attacks to a minimum on my thread.
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Thanks, I'll check it out
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Good news for a change....
by ProdigalSon inamidst all the tragedy and bad news lately, i thought i would share something positive.
for those of you who are aware that we are not alone in this universe and that there is a hierarchy of "angels" looking out for us, that disclosure is imminent and that we are headed for a much better world where selfishness and greed are no longer the norm, where mankind will live in peace upon a "paradise earth", free from the wretched clutches of the dark ruling elite (yes, i am talking about the fall of "babylon the great"), then this news is for you: the "elohim" have everything fully under control.. for you skeptics, this is channeled information.
if you think this is foolish, please try to keep your negativity and ad hominem attacks to a minimum on my thread.
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You cannot just dismiss the old testament, it is all part of God's word, who are we to pick and choose?
The Old Testament prophecies the birth of Jesus Christ.
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Good news for a change....
by ProdigalSon inamidst all the tragedy and bad news lately, i thought i would share something positive.
for those of you who are aware that we are not alone in this universe and that there is a hierarchy of "angels" looking out for us, that disclosure is imminent and that we are headed for a much better world where selfishness and greed are no longer the norm, where mankind will live in peace upon a "paradise earth", free from the wretched clutches of the dark ruling elite (yes, i am talking about the fall of "babylon the great"), then this news is for you: the "elohim" have everything fully under control.. for you skeptics, this is channeled information.
if you think this is foolish, please try to keep your negativity and ad hominem attacks to a minimum on my thread.
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Yahweh is the Most High. He has existed for eternity. Psalms 90:2. He installed His own throne long ago. It cannot crumble. It will last for eternity. Psalms 93:2. We cannot comprehend or come to know His age, because we cannot fully comprehend eternity. Job 36:26. He is the only God that is almighty in comparison to the false gods, for Yahweh constructed all of creation. Hebrews 3:4. He is incorruptible and invisible, the King of eternity.
He is of honor and glory that lasts forever and ever. 1 Timothy 1:17. Yahweh is a God of Truth. He is a living God and is the King over all creation for eternity. Jeremiah 10:10. Because there are many gods that are valueless, we should come to know the true God, Yahweh. Psalms 96:5. 1 Corinthians 8:5. Habakkuk 2:18. All other gods of lessor value are a falsehood. They are vanity and a work of mockery. Jeremiah 10:14, 15.
Because Yahweh is the Creator and He is righteous in his ways, we should never turn to valueless gods that cannot redeem or provide life eternal. Leviticus 19:4. The things the nations of this earth sacrifice, they do so to demons, not Yahweh. 1 Corinthians 10:20. Psalms 106:37, 38. Yahweh made even the Heavens (through the Word His master worker). Psalms 96:5. Dawn (Satan the Devil) is a god also, but of no value. Because of his opposing the only true God, and his hope in thwarting the Prophecies that will lead to his final destruction, Satan has used what power he does have to blind the minds of unbelievers, so that Christ's Promise might not shine through in this dark world we all live in. 2 Corinthians 4:4. Although we know we originate with the true God, those that don't know that, are caught up in the misconceptions of Dawn's deceit. 1 John 5:19. In the beginning, the Creator was responsible for all that has been created. Genesis 1:1. Therefore, it can be said without reservation that He is the Most High, even over this planet Earth. Psalms 83:18. The very heavens declare His glory; they reveal the work of His hands and His wisdom. Psalms 19:1-4. Yahweh's invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world's creation onward. They are perceived by the things made, even his eternal
power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable for anyone to deny that he exists. Romans 1:20. We should come to know who He is, and that he is our Maker, not evolution. Psalms 100:3.The people of this planet will learn that the Word is indeed the Living Word of Yahweh; that what She has spoken never fails to occur; the importance of Father's name being made known before all that reside on this planet of the present generation of mankind, the forecasted event of vindication of Yahweh's name, brought forth under the command of Michael the Word Christ Jesus.
Aside from Michael serving as Christ Jesus the chosen savior of Father's flock, his primary duty is to clear the Creator's name of reproach; this is why Michael rides the white horse as a warrior leading the way to cleanse the earth of Satan's confederates.
