Truman girl, there was no mention of the UN at this assembly. It was such a waste of time too.
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Circuit Assembly Report and other observations
by truthseeker inhi, it's been a while since i posted.. circuit assembly program 2003-2004.
theme: rejoice in the hope.
endure under tribulation - romans 12:12. nothing special about this circuit assembly this time round, in fact, it was very boring.
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Control damn it! April 2004 KM on How to Behave at the Conventions
by truthseeker inmy god, this is worst than last years.
i'm not writing the whole thing out, but here are some "convention reminders" for this years district convention.. "let us exhalt his name together" page 3. para 4. please bring a lunch rather than leave the convention site to obtain a meal during the noon break.
this will allow all to enjoy upbuilding association and be present from the very start of the session.
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Thanks for your comments and to Funchback, Nathan and Corvin for your added paragraphs!
It's a shame that the friends who have been baptised for years are still parroting the answers like they never knew the questions.
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Circuit Assembly Report and other observations
by truthseeker inhi, it's been a while since i posted.. circuit assembly program 2003-2004.
theme: rejoice in the hope.
endure under tribulation - romans 12:12. nothing special about this circuit assembly this time round, in fact, it was very boring.
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Thanks Blondie, Simplesally, Garybush and Randy for your comments.
Excellent point Blondie about reenactments - I had no idea, now it makes perfect sense.
Truthseeker
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Control damn it! April 2004 KM on How to Behave at the Conventions
by truthseeker inmy god, this is worst than last years.
i'm not writing the whole thing out, but here are some "convention reminders" for this years district convention.. "let us exhalt his name together" page 3. para 4. please bring a lunch rather than leave the convention site to obtain a meal during the noon break.
this will allow all to enjoy upbuilding association and be present from the very start of the session.
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My God, this is worst than last years. I'm not writing the whole thing out, but here are some "convention reminders" for this years District Convention.
"Let Us Exhalt His Name Together" page 3
para 4
Please bring a lunch rather than leave the convention site to obtain a meal during the noon break. This will allow all to enjoy upbuilding association and be present from the very start of the session. If necessary, a small cooler that can be placed under a seat may be used.
It's so generous of them to allow us to carry our food and drink in any sort of container. Especially on very hot days.
subheading: A Spiritual Banquet Awaits Us:
para 6
King Jehoshaphat was one who "prepared [his] heart to search for the true God." How can we prepare out heart before the convention? The articles on the back page of the May 22 and June 8 issues of Awake! provide a preview of the spiritual banquet that will be served.
Spiritual Food at the Proper Time page 5
para 2
At the convention held at Columbus, Ohio in 1931, Jehovah (Rutherflawed) directed his worshippers to take on a new name - Jehovah's Witnesses. (Isa 43:10-12)
para 3
subheading: How Well Are You Eating?
It is possible to be surrounded by food and yet be malnorished if we do not put forth the effort to eat. (How many have seen malnorished people surrounded by food who don't want to eat? What a stupid comparison) The same is true in a spiritual sense. At a few conventions, it has been observed (by whom?) that many are needlessly walking around or talking with others during the program. While upbuilding association (what association? Do you know the person sitting behind you?) is an important aspect of the convention, the time for this is before and after each session...Convention department overseers and brothers with assignments may find it necessary to discuss convention matters while the (indoctrination) sessions are in progress. Otherwise, they should set an example by their attentiveness to the program. None of us can afford to miss and of the spiritual food provided.
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How we rejoice in the rich spiritual truths Jehovah provides (we never said 1975), as contrasted with the dried out false doctrines of Christendom. One way we can 'show ourselves thankful' is by viewing the convention as an opportunity to be taught by Jehovah. (Col 3:15) Look beyond the brother giving the talk, and view the message as coming from our "Grand Instructor." (we never said 1975) Pay rapt attention.
Chaste, Praiseworthy Personal Appearance page 6
para 3 subheading Modest, Well Arranged Dress:
When preparing for the convention, ask yourself: 'Is my clothing modest, or does it draw undue attention to me? Does it show respect for the feelings of others? Are my blouses too low (brothers!) at the neckline or too short? Are my dresses revealing or tight? Is my clothing clean and free from offensive odors (no smoking)...Would the clothing I wear during leisure time make me embarrased to witness informally?
So, after 8 gruelling hours on a hard seat, you can't even relax without worrying about informally witnessing to someone?
Add your own paragraph!
Pay Attention to how you Go
para 1 - During a break to the rest room, are you constantly thinking about the spiritual truths you have heard? Every opportunity has been made for each toilet and cubicle to have it's own speaker system. Are you taking advantage of these loving arrangements? Surely, none of us can afford to miss this vital spiritual food as coming from the faithful and discreet slave. Remember, do not abuse complimetary toilet roll when wiping your ass.
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Circuit Assembly Report and other observations
by truthseeker inhi, it's been a while since i posted.. circuit assembly program 2003-2004.
theme: rejoice in the hope.
endure under tribulation - romans 12:12. nothing special about this circuit assembly this time round, in fact, it was very boring.
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Hi, it's been a while since I posted.
Circuit Assembly Program 2003-2004
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Theme: Rejoice in the Hope. Endure Under Tribulation - Romans 12:12
Nothing special about this circuit assembly this time round, in fact, it was very boring. However, after a 40min drive, I arrived at the Hall, got a program and found a seat near the front.
Saturday Morning
9:45 Music - prior to music, speaker gets up and says, "You will be delighted by some beautiful Kingdom music" Eh? Kingdom Music now?
9:50 Song No 16 and Prayer
10:00 Rejoicing Despite Tribulation - yes, more persecution of our brothers in Georgia
10:15 Theocratic Ministry School
11:00 Song No 78 and Announcements - a gentle reminder for those that chew gum - please don't put it on the seats
11:10 Enduring in Work That is Good - the only people interviewed both days were pioneers and elders. Is it really necessary to state that pioneer sister so and so has been regular for 30 years? A subtle form of creature worship I thinks. It seems that too many pioneers are thinking of coming off the list and so they want to stop this.
11:35 Dedication and Baptism - a few did get baptized, mostly children of witness parents (at least it seems that way)
12:05 Song No. 55
Lunch - finally I can eat. Remember to put your coke cans in the container provided making sure to empty contents completely.
Saturday afternoon
1:25 Music - another delightful Kingdom melody
1:30 Song No 72 and Experiences - a new trend is taking place. The brother giving the experience uses actors to act out the experiences at the same time. Only the second year I have seen this happen. Once again, the experience was of pioneers.
1:45 Bear Fruit with Much Endurance
2:45 Song No 133 and Announcements
2:55 Keeping Our Hope (Carrot on a stick) Alive
3:25 Endurance Leads to an Approved Condition
3:55 Song No. 51 And Prayer
Sunday morning
9:45 Music
9:50 Song No 65 and Prayer
10:00 Responding Personally to our Daily Scripture Examination - I could never work out why they didn't do a daily examination of the text on all the other days.
10:15 Run The Race With Endurance - long time elders are interviewed about how long they have served and the problems they overcame.
11:00 Song No 224 and Announcements
11:10 Botchtower Summary
11:40 Giving Attention to the Needs of the Circuit - possible change of circuits, moving congregations about etc
12:05 Song No 38
Sunday afternoon
1:25 More Music
1:30 Song No. 23 and Prayer - Why do they always say a prayer at the beginning of the Sunday afternoon session? Does anyone know the answer to this?
Public Address: In Whose Name Should the Nations Hope?
2:25 Song No 105 and Announcements - Once again, crocodile tears for more money. How these people ring up a $12,000 deficit I'll never know. But, reading JT's experience of a brother who worked in the contributions dept and how they put a $ number on each publisher's head, I can see how such huge deficit's can appear.
2:35 Look Ahead, Not at the Things Behind
3:05 By Endurance You Will Aquire Your Souls - Another rehash of last years talk
3:35 Song No 29 and Prayer - finally, it's over
Leaving the building - 4 brothers are facing me just before the exit doors with those tall cardboard contribution boxes. Talk about "in your face"!
Summary - nothing new, or even remotely interesting. Just endure and all will be fine. And keep those contribtions flowing. Not a SINGLE publisher was used for either day, it was just pioneers and elders.
Has anyone noticed that the Society hasn't released a new video for some time now?
Also, the tract for young witnesses, "Young People - What Will You Do With Your Life' has never been mentioned. It's almost like it was never even published. What was the real reason for this glossy brochure?
Just remembered, the CO said that they want us to comment at WT meetings keeping our answers short, to the point and saying what's in the paragraph. Can they get anymore controlling?
That's about all folks
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Service meeting - Don't talk to disfellowshipped ones at the Memorial!
by truthseeker inat the service meeting last night, we were told that even at the memorial, we should not talk to disfellowshipped individuals.
also, i don't know if there is any truth in this, but disfellowshipped ones are generally not invited to the memorial.
when did the "memorial season" begin?
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A few have asked me the question, "Why do I still go to the Kingdom Hall and listen to this crap"
Believe me, it is not out of want, but out of necessity.
I am married, the other half is very much into it, and I am afraid of losing my marriage if I just up and leave.
I consider myself a hostage - there are no physical restraints, no walls, just a mental prison I am screaming to get out of.
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KM school
by truthseeker indoes anyone know when the next kingdom ministry school for elders is?
is it held every year or every two years?.
also, the "shining as illuminators" secret book for pioneers is being updated this december.
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Does anyone know when the next Kingdom Ministry school for elders is? Is it held every year or every two years?
Also, the "Shining As Illuminators" secret book for Pioneers is being updated this December. Anyone know what it is that they are adding/deleting?
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Service meeting - Don't talk to disfellowshipped ones at the Memorial!
by truthseeker inat the service meeting last night, we were told that even at the memorial, we should not talk to disfellowshipped individuals.
also, i don't know if there is any truth in this, but disfellowshipped ones are generally not invited to the memorial.
when did the "memorial season" begin?
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At the service meeting last night, we were told that even at the Memorial, we should not talk to disfellowshipped individuals. Also, I don't know if there is any truth in this, but disfellowshipped ones are generally not invited to the Memorial.
When did the "Memorial Season" begin? How can one evening meal translate into 3 months of "special theocratic activity," i.e, auxiliary pioneering.
The Feb KM actually tells elders that if they see individuals who used to associate with the congregation, but now have only limited contact, they are to impress on them the urgency of the times we are living in.
In other words, make them feel guilt if they are newly interested but have not gone to all the numerous meetings spoken about just before the end of the Memorial talk.
Another point - Jesus told his disciples to "keep doing this continually in remembrance of me."
Did Jesus speak of two classes or one class - or did he mean everyone?
Because, if Jesus had meant everyone should partake, then at the Memorial every year, throughout the earth, millions of people are being denied the opportunity to partake of the emblems, representing Jesus' shed blood and sacrifice.
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The Watchtower Society has lost the information war
by truthseeker ini almost wrote, "has the watchtower society lost the information war?
", but decided the war has been won by those who are determined to make known the truth about this organization.. when the internet became available to the public around late 1994, only a few jws/xjws had actually joined; just a tiny fraction of the xjw population.
almost 10 years later, and we have a real information revolution, which was previously unimagined.. with various governments around the world all wanting every school, college and university connected to the internet, not to mention third-world countries to get access to government services and programs, it seemed inevitable that people would see the internet, not just as a tool, but a way of life.. consider when the telephone was invented.
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Good points Phantom, maybe I was a little hasty with my analogy.
However, I give a lot of weight to the spreading of information by means of technology. The generation of 1914, who have basically passed away, is big, it is significant. But, few people coming into the org after 1995 were even made aware of this doctine - they are not affected by it.
When the Society change a doctrine, it becomes a big thing in the eyes of many dubs, who are confused and doubting. But, to younger JW's who don't comprehend these changes or to newly converted dubs, it is meaningless to them, as they don't even know what it is that has changed - so much for present truth.
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The Watchtower Society has lost the information war
by truthseeker ini almost wrote, "has the watchtower society lost the information war?
", but decided the war has been won by those who are determined to make known the truth about this organization.. when the internet became available to the public around late 1994, only a few jws/xjws had actually joined; just a tiny fraction of the xjw population.
almost 10 years later, and we have a real information revolution, which was previously unimagined.. with various governments around the world all wanting every school, college and university connected to the internet, not to mention third-world countries to get access to government services and programs, it seemed inevitable that people would see the internet, not just as a tool, but a way of life.. consider when the telephone was invented.
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I almost wrote, "Has the Watchtower Society lost the information war?", but decided the war has been won by those who are determined to make known the truth about this organization.
When the Internet became available to the public around late 1994, only a few JWs/XJWs had actually joined; just a tiny fraction of the xJW population. Almost 10 years later, and we have a real information revolution, which was previously unimagined.
With various governments around the world all wanting every school, college and university connected to the Internet, not to mention third-world countries to get access to government services and programs, it seemed inevitable that people would see the Internet, not just as a tool, but a way of life.
Consider when the telephone was invented. When the first telephone exchanges were in operation, making phone calls was expensive. A landline was not laid from the USA to the UK until the 1920s, thereby limiting the flow of conversation (information) and making calls very expensive. You also had to 'book' your phonecall in advance to some places. Decades later, and we have the World Wide Web, where unlimited access has replaced per minute/per hour access. These advances in marketing, accessibility and cost have made the Internet available to millions of people around the globe. Even if you cannot afford a computer, most likely you will have a $1 to pay for an hours worth of surfing in an Internet cafe.
What does this have to do with the Watchtower Organization?
If you were considered an apostate in the 1970s, where would you go to find information on their history? Few books were available then, notably 30 years a Watchtower Slave.
If you were considered an apostate in the 1980s, you may have heard about Freeminds organization and their newsletters. Perhaps you may have 'stumbled' on 'Crisis of Conscience' by Ray Franz.
Still, there was almost no way you would come across an ex-witness in those decades, short of going to a convention and meeting demonstrators.
In the 1990s, the Internet took off and so did the information revolution. H20, the grand daddy of all JW websites, was created in 1996, and represented a very daring undertaking for its time - for the first time in JW history, active, doubting and ex-witnesses could meet together, anonymously, in the privacy of their own room and discuss sensitive matters regarding the nature of the organization.
Other websites came and went, but JW.com has to be the best website for all classes of witnesses.
This website, as well as others, have done severe, lasting damage to the Jehovah's Witness organization. The church has lost members left, right and center because of this board.
In 1999 the November Kingdom Ministry strongly cautioned witnesses to limit their use of the Internet, saying it is not necessary to have a webpage about the activities and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. Many active witnesses violated this directive and formed their own forums and webpages. Not a few who did this eventually became apostate themselves and possibly others who had joined.
Since that year, the Society had published a few articles warning of the dangers of the Internet. It seems now, that apostasy has replaced pornography as the biggest threat the Society faces. While pornography is a problem in itself, and to the viewers of it, 'apostasy' lays bare the entire tapestry of the organization, exposing every error they had made, are making and likely will make.
Because of the Internet
1 - Silent Lambs website was created, alerting JW's to the presence of child molestors in the organization, not to mention the coverups of local elders and the governing body
2 - JW's can now watch media clips and videos of TV programs exposing Jehovah's Witnesses. Radio and talk shows are other media accessible from this medium.
3 - Anytime, anywhere JWs can access and read thousands of life stories, exposes, coverups, scandals and changes in doctrine, from any computer
4 - JWs can anonymously post questions, answers and other material for a variety of JW oriented subjects
5 - Using IRC and other chat programs, JW's can, in real time, talk to friends and for that matter any JW who will give them a hearing ear about their problems in the organization
6 - Amazon and Barnes & Nobles offer a wide variety of JW literature. Without the great search engine, how else would you know the titles of books exposing the Society?
7 - Borads such as these, are an enormous JW resource. If I have any critiscism, about this board, it should be that there is no real index of JW stuff that we could access. The more info this forum accumulates, the harder it is to find something very specific, say an event at Bethel, or a discussion of JCanon's latest insight.
With the Society's strong talk at the summer convention last year, on "Beware the Voice of Strangers", the message I got was avoid the Internet!
The recent Watchtower study articles seem paranoid about the infiltration of apostates. The March 1st issue is almost pleading with the members that they really are the faithful and discreet slave.
Think for a minute how difficult it was before the Internet and the PC to share secret information about the Society to another JW. You would have a difficult time getting the information let alone photcopying sheets of paper.
Along comes email, winzip and broadband. Now, a JW on the other side of the world can send a Dateline expose on the child molestation to another friend within seconds.
The power of the Internet is hear to stay.
What else has the power of the Internet done to witnesses? Being exposed to so much truth about the WTS, a number of active members are now polarised in their thinking regarding the methods and motives of the leadership. They choose to stay in because the knowledge they now have has made them hostage to their minds and principles - better to stay in and keep spouse and kids then leave and loose eveything.
In fact, we have a new class of JW's - the Between a rock and a hard place class.
Finally, consider Moore's law
Wikpedia defines Moore's law as this: Moore's Law is an empiric observation stating in effect that at our rate of technological development and advances in the semiconductor industry the complexity of integrated circuits doubles every 18 months.
Is there going to be similar law, perhaps an XJW law, that the number of exwitnesses leaving the organization will double every 18 months?