Posts by starScream

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New "Simplification Arrangement"

by Farkel in

boe letter dated 3-2-2003. dear brothers,.

jehovah's organization(tm) has increasingly become under attack by apostates and all those who fight jehovah's will(tm).

apostates(tm) have claimed that our new world translation(tm) of the holy scriptures has no justification for using jehovah's holy name(tm) in the greek scriptures(tm), scandalously claiming that there is not even one ancient text that contains that name in those greek scriptures(tm).. they have also attacked jehovah's understanding of daniel 4, daniel 8 and revelation 7, to name only a few.. we wish to find persons of "good will(tm)", that is to say, we want to find "honest-hearted(tm)" ones(tm) who will accept jesus' underserved kindness and become a part of the great crowd(tm) and will accompany the many of us who are deserving into the paradise earth(tm) which will soon(tm) be given to those deserving of us.. therefore, in order to address the threats and lies of some(tm) apostates(tm), we have instituted a new, simplified arrangement(tm).. brothers, we should no longer say that our one, true faith(tm) is "bible-based(tm)".

starScream

nice try, i almost laffed.

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Verses that bothered you as a JW

by JH in

we find god's name "jehovah" so many times in the old testament, but not at all in the new testament.

jesus is called a "mighty god" in the bible.

jesus is also called "father".

starScream

actually Solomon prayed to God for Wisdom and he was so wise he knew that the real mother would not allow the child to be cut in half and give it up, its not hard to understand.

Abraham loved God so much he would do anything to please him. God knew Abraham would do what he said. By demonstrating his love for God by willingly sacrificing His son God foreshadows the love it means to sacrifice a Son, who was sacrificed not for God, but it was God's Son for man. God never intended for Abraham to sacrifice his son, that why he told him to stop. It was God's son that was to be sacrificed for people like Abraham, WHO HAVE FAITH. It is one of the most profound prophecies in the bible. A similar one is with Moses putting up a copper serpent and having people look upon it with faith and being healed, gee I wonder what that prophecy refers too.

Your problem with Abraham's obedience to God is rather ironic. It actually validates the Truth of the crucifixion.

also keep in mind God gave Abraham his son after he was unable to have one and when he and his wifer were beyond child bearing years. As The lord giveth So the lord taketh away. It is a different circumstance than yours.

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'HOVAHS CAN'T DO NO WRONG!

by TR in

no matter what happens, 'hovahs can do no wrong.. 'hovah numbers go up = 'hovah's blessing.

'hovah numbers go down = 'hovah cleanses cong/tests followers.

kingdom hall missed by hurricane = 'hovah's angels in action.

starScream

'hovahs say 1975 will be the end: man isnt perfect

'hovahs say 1914 will be the: WWI proves 'hovahs is 'hovah's prophet

'hovahs ban vaccinations hundreds die: hundreds proved loyalty to 'hovah

'hovahs lift ban on vaccinations: 'hovah has blessed 'hovahs with new light

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Verses that bothered you as a JW

by JH in

we find god's name "jehovah" so many times in the old testament, but not at all in the new testament.

jesus is called a "mighty god" in the bible.

jesus is also called "father".

starScream

Rev 20:11

according to WTS all the non JWs will come back here at the 2nd resurrection. WTS says they will come back to Earth and get the chance to prove themselves as loyal JWs.

Only problem is Earth has fled away and they are only standing in front of the Throne being Judged according to their works that were recorded in the scrolls. This is not a 2nd chance, this is the Judgement for the lives of sin that ALL have led.

Rev 14:11 those in the lake of fire have no rest from their torment day or night forever

Jesus calls himself good shepherd then some guy calls him good and he responds by saying no one is Good but God alone.

Jehovah is our only savior, sry its somewhere in Isa., yet Jesus is our only savior.

Col. 1:16-17 is a problem since if Jesus was created how is it that HE created ALL things. Did he create himself? How can they understand that and not the Trinity?

How is it that the Jehovah shares his glory with no one and then at the same time shares his Glory with the son?

Isa: 44:24 how is it that Jehovah created everything by himself and no one was with him if Jesus created everything by himself? pretty easy to understand if you accept the fact that Thomas was talking to Jesus at Jn 20:28.

apparently Jn 8:58 is such a problem for JWs that had to alter Ex 3:14

Isa 44:6, Rev 1:17 how can Jesus be the First and the Last if he is not Jehovah?

Rev 22:13 apparently the Alpha and the Omega is the First and the Last.

Rev 1:8 wow apparently the Alpha and the Omega is the Almighty which makes sense if you have been given ALL the power of Heaven and Earth and already created everything anyway.

man it just goes on and on.

Whats so annoying is actually caring about JWs. I mean you think this stuff would eventually sink in but they are just so ******* ******.

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Are JW kids really better that Christendom's or even the world's?

by starScream in

i dont mean to put down my cousin but if she and her boyfriend (now husband) have been loyal jws all their lives why is it that he was arrested for cocaine posession, (he was actually trafficking while a jw!!!!

)she got knocked up by him, and then they got married by a judge instead of an elder.

do these sound like jw kids or do they sound like the real jw kids that you dont see on the poster or cover of awake.

starScream

What's really sad is how JW's don't realize there is only one standard of righteousness and everyone else must rely on mercy.

It just makes me sick when JW's find it laughable that people comparable to them rely on mercy when thats the only chance they have. I remember occasionally hearing a MS pray forgiveness for us since we are sinners and I never understood that because if you sin you are supposed to be DF'd.

I don't find it laughable if someone who is a worse sinner than me relies on mercy. Where sin abounds grace abounds all the more.

this is JW logic

sin x: God will forgive this sin, sometimes it is necessary when dealing with apostates or opposers

sin y: God will forgive this sin after a while if you act good but armageddon better not come in the next five minutes!

sin z: God will only forgive this sin if you become a pioneer for at least a year.

sin xyz: this is the sin that Jesus died for, we all do it and it can't be helped. You just better not do it when someone from Christendom is watching!!!!

sin xyz pi r: you will never be forgiven for this since it offended the watchtower too much, like reporting an elder child molester that the watchtower didnt discipline on TV

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attention lost sheep.

by MOLHIE-NIGG in

oh dear you people are really filled with hate, the jws are "evil" are they?.

i think evil is a bit over the top dont you, jahs people may be many things but noy quite that i am afraid, how about loving, compasionate, caring and steadfast in their belief of the truth?..

is it any wonder jws are warned and understandably cautious of you when statements like these abound, lets expose them you cry and then wonder why they view sites like this as part of satans body.

starScream

Oh btw the way, I dont mind being called a lost sheep.

I am a sheep and not one of the JW goats.

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attention lost sheep.

by MOLHIE-NIGG in

oh dear you people are really filled with hate, the jws are "evil" are they?.

i think evil is a bit over the top dont you, jahs people may be many things but noy quite that i am afraid, how about loving, compasionate, caring and steadfast in their belief of the truth?..

is it any wonder jws are warned and understandably cautious of you when statements like these abound, lets expose them you cry and then wonder why they view sites like this as part of satans body.

starScream

Jehovah's Witnesses is a rather inappropriate and presumptuous name, first of all, since they don't know the first thing about God.

I was raised in the "truth." Which actually wasn't the truth as was proved by the GB's inability to decide once for all what that truth actually is. I sold magazines that said the 20th century would see the final overthrow of all human governments and the destruction of all the wicked and the establishment of Christ's Earthly rule. Its 2003 and that one fall too. I was also told that some of the annointed or at least those born before 1914 would still be alive when armageddon came. There's another one they needed to quietly stop talking about.

The Watchtower claimed to be the Prophet of God in 1972 but by that claim the Watchtower should be put to death "without delay" as a false prophet as it says in Deut. Every condemnation the Watchtower makes of real Christians is one more it will have to answer to on Judgment day.

Since you are still blind as to how ridiculous the watchtower is you will obviously think we are devil worshipping idiots, but it is Jehovah's (false) Witnesses that dont like Jesus, and reject in their communion service, which should be called an excommunion service.

We actually love Jesus. We don't just pay lipservice to that. We love him more than anything, unlike JW's who love the watchtower more if they love Jesus at all, and that which is done to the Son is done to the Father.

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Cult alley

by starScream in

i have lived in the san diego area all my life and i have to say i can't imagine a place that has more cults.. this one street, melrose, which runs through a northern san diego city where i lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including mormo and jw.. we also have a proliferation of ufo and cosmic cults.

we have this one whore of babylon, ruth norman, who is always on public access and operates out of east san diego.

just looking at her makes me want to puke.

starScream

cmon TR is that really necessary? I mean it is funny but not very nice and it is off the topic just a little bit.

Im sorry for that moulhie

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Why did you get out of JW?

by WorldsEyeView in

why did all of you guys get out?.

i have a friend who is a jw, and i don't think she is right at all.

do you guys have any convincing arguments on why jw is wrong?

starScream

never doubted you for a second Megan.

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Cult alley

by starScream in

i have lived in the san diego area all my life and i have to say i can't imagine a place that has more cults.. this one street, melrose, which runs through a northern san diego city where i lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including mormo and jw.. we also have a proliferation of ufo and cosmic cults.

we have this one whore of babylon, ruth norman, who is always on public access and operates out of east san diego.

just looking at her makes me want to puke.

starScream

I have lived in the San Diego area all my life and I have to say I can't imagine a place that has more cults.

This one street, Melrose, which runs through a Northern San Diego city where I lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including Mormo and JW.

We also have a proliferation of UFO and cosmic cults. We have this one whore of babylon, Ruth Norman, who is always on Public access and operates out of East San Diego. Just looking at her makes me want to puke. She developed this religion called Unarius. The more radical version of this crap was called Heaven's Gate. Also in the San Diego area.

So who has whacky annoying cults in their area?