My father was/is from the no special treatment school of thought. I was always under close scrutiny, it sucked. I never really did anything "bad" until I just up and told my dad it wasnt for me. He had the elders come talk to me, they read me some scriptures blah blah blah. I was never df'd or da'd though i just faded away.
Posts by Azalo
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25Elders' kids - special treatment?
by starfish422 init seems to be the opinion of some on this board that elders' kids received special treatment, weren't punished for their wrongdoings, etc.. as the daughter of the po in our small congregation, let me tell you that it was much harder for me than for the kids of those who weren't elders.
our family was expected to be the "model family for displaly purposes" and we were held up to very high standards so that we didn't "stumble" anyone.
at times i wished my dad wasn't an elder so that i could have a bit more freedom.
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Did I turn my back on Jehovah's True Organization?
by sandy ini was wondering as i have been lately; did i turn my back on god and am i wrong for turning my back on the organization?.
are there any of you out there that feel like you have a real personal relationship with god with or without religion in your life?
do you still call god jehovah?
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Azalo
as many have said i think youre feelings are normal. i have a different perspective from you because i consider myself somewhere between agnostic and atheist so i do not fear god or fear displeasing him/her and i have no desire to "find the truth" . well that wasn't much help was it, but good luck i think you will be happier in the end.
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Who is the current "King of the South"?
by Azalo inever since the ussr fell it seems the jw's have been trying to find anyone to proclaim the king of the south (sorry if thats not how u say it but i'm just directly translating "rey del sur" ) just wondering if anyone knows who is the latest suspect, n korea maybe?
by the way, another example of how elitist the wts is, albeit subtle, why isnt the us the king of the south?
after all geographically speaking the former ussr is further north than the us.
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Azalo
ever since the USSR fell it seems the JW's have been trying to find anyone to proclaim the king of the South (sorry if thats not how u say it but i'm just directly translating "Rey del Sur" ) just wondering if anyone knows who is the latest suspect, N Korea maybe?
by the way, another example of how elitist the WTS is, albeit subtle, why isnt the US the king of the South? after all geographically speaking the former USSR is further north than the US.
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If you were President????
by LB inlots of opinions here on this site.
but i haven't seen anyone post an alternative to this war.
i know many of you support it and many others recoil at the thought of this war.
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Azalo
I would bring all the troops back home. I would close all bases outside of the US, I would cut the military budget by at least 50% and spend that money on social programs (mainly education) and balancing the budget. I would end all embargos except weapons embargos. I would end the joke we call "war on drugs" and decriminalize drugs. I would forgive the loans of all "third world" countries. I would create a non-profit. gov't funded media outlet who did not have to answer to the gov't. I would change the electoral college system and institute radical campaign finance reform. I would repeal the homeland security act. i would open up the mexican border and grant amnesty to all "illegal" aliens. i would decrease the power of the president and make congress the strongest branch of govt. i would implement a universal healthcare system paid for with all the military money we wont be spending. ok i got carried away (but i could go on forever) and i know that the president doesnt have the power to just do most of these things but it was a fun exercise in wishful thinking.
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1,2,3,4 We Don't Want This Bloody War
by Robdar ini went to my first peace rally and march tonight.
it was incredible.
at one time there were probably 350 of us all joined in solidarity.
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Azalo
I tend to not post on these topics because my views are so far left of the majority of posters and I find it silly to try to argue my position with anyone. After all one thing I think we all agree on is that we have the right to believe whatever we want.
That being said the fact that the majority of congress voted in favor of war or whatever means absolutely nothing. In the current climate it is political suicide to vote otherwise, or so it seems... (It will be interesting if this war becomes "unpopular" what kind of spin all the lemmings in congress will try to put on their vote to save their necks)
The polls that state Americans are in favor of the war have to be taken with a grain of salt as does anything else that is reported in the mass media. 90% propaganda, 9.9% half truths
OK go ahead and take your shots if you must. BTW I am active duty US military
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JW's Should Not Wear Too Much Makeup Or Baggy Clothing Per New KM
by minimus inif you weren't quite sure how jehovah god expects you to dress, the april 2003 km helps us to see his viewpoint.
"well-arranged dress shows reverence for god" is the article that assists us to know god's feelings on these matters.
i will give you some quotes from the article: "soon we will have the privilege of being jehovah's guests at the 2003 ' give god glory' disctrict convention.
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Azalo
Thats very funny, it almost seems as if they come up with these rules just for the sake of having control and to keep the dangerous youth in check.
It also reflects the elitist attitude of the JW's. Many people can't afford to get tailor made suits and just get whatever is available at goodwill regardless of the style. Can you imagine Jesus kicking someone out of the temple for wearinga worldly outfit?
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Witness memory
by Descender inhave any of you had a similar occurrence when you were a witness as this?
i was 18 years old and had taken a trip with my witness buddies to new york.
one of them had been drafted into bethel and we decided to go along to tour the place and visit new york and patterson.
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Azalo
I dont remember ever hearing about the 7000 year rule in the 80's and 90's. I always heard the 1 for 1000 rule.
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How BIG was YOUR JW book-bag?
by Scully inwhen i was replying to nicolas' question in another thread, i used the following scripture to show why jws are always so tired:"the scribes and the pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of moses.
therefore all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but do not perform.
they bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.
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Azalo
I remember my parents would buy me a nice new bag every few years and I would floss it at the hall but eventually I decided that it was uncool to carry a stupid breifcase and just brought a bible and the wt to the meeting, made me look "weak", i know, but i liked that aspect.
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The WTS Lie That Ensnared Me!
by ISP in*** tr chap.
11 pp.
the bible speaks of the time in which we are living as the last days or the time of the end.
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Azalo
I know this is what ensnared my father. I wish I could debate with him about it but bringing that up would be relationship suicide so I just the light gets clearer for him. (and the rest of my family but my father is definitely the glue that keeps them all in the org, if he left their whole belief system would be devestated)
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Witness memory
by Descender inhave any of you had a similar occurrence when you were a witness as this?
i was 18 years old and had taken a trip with my witness buddies to new york.
one of them had been drafted into bethel and we decided to go along to tour the place and visit new york and patterson.
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Azalo
I have tons of memories like that. I cant remember specific conversations but I remember how my family and other JWs would see something on TV about evolution or some other scientific FACT that goes against JW teaching and they would all laugh at how dumb and naive worldly people were. Ironic huh!