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  Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-26-2014 WT Study (Obey Jehovah's Shepherds))

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  2. bible

  fine.

  holy spirit appointed overseers to shepherd?

  6:1, 2; jude 22) are these not good reasons for being obedient to those who are taking the lead?read hebrews 13:17.. .

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  Hi,

  I very rarely give comments from the literature. I try to make it in harmony with the lesson but try to bring out a different point. Many times the Elder just looks at me, because I'm making him & the congregation think. I remember once we were talking about Paul & how when he spoke to the weak he became weak, when he spoke to a jew he became a jew, so I said, we can liken Paul to a spiritual chameleon....chameleon's change colors but never their form. Whe I finished the comment, there was an ah...& after many of the friends came to me and said what a nice comment & they never thought of it that way. I have said many to make them just think outside the box a bit...remember when God lead the Jews by a cloud in the day & fire by night, so I said God thinks of everything...the cloud was to protect them from the days heat & the fire to keep them warm at night...

  Yesterday, re: Elders, I said they were like helicopters, just hovering over the flock & if need be...they will land & help...& that God uses imperfect folks because we are imperfect, so we can all identify with one another...& so on..the Brother lost his place...I have found to give a comment that may not be in the magazine, is not a bad thing, but make sure it's in harmony with the lesson, but just may take a right turn. Not always do I do that, I may at times just add a little to whatever the magazine says..I got a bunch of comments...I have yet to say...but I have a waiting attitude...

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  I've got a gem for all of you....

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. bible

  awake 1993 3/8 pg 15 pp 2. raisingsheepisourbusiness.

  have you ever worn a woolen garment or bought a skein of wool?

  did you ever stop to think where the wool came from?

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  Hi Newly Enlightened,

  Do the sheep stay out in the winter time ? Do you put them away in the winter & if so, do the shepherds or you stay out with them. I ask because that's the witnesses explaination for that Jesus was not born in the winter or Dec. 25th....although I live in NYC & Xmas time the temp. was approx. 64 degrees.

  Just asking,

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  Observations about last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!

  draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.

  excruciatingly boring.

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  @BluesBrother,

  Bingo, you hit it...I would at times look over the congregation...& heads would be down,& I'm thinking, what are they doing? What they writing notes what?

  You finally woke me up...they are reading...but not anything...JW'ish. Thanks for the eye opener.

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  South Carolina Witness man kills family & himself....has anyone heard

  by Legacy in

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  2. bible

  hi,.

  heard a witness man from south carolina, killed his family & himself...has anyone heard ?

  don't think he killed himself because he was a witness, most likely crazy before he became a witness... legacy.

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  @quellycatface,

  Whatelse can they do...I went to a sisters house when I first started studying...she kept offering me a drink, they had a full stocked bar....Witnesses eat, & drink..in abundance...ever notice when they give an illustration, it always is likened to a good meal...

  The are physically & mentally suppressed. Many are working out their salvation & have alot of guilt, so going out in service helps them to avoid thinking. Some of them can't even stay at home with their ownselves. They run themselves out of their own house. Also, think of being a witness this way, many of them chose a religion that is busy, some folks like to keep busy, ask them & they don't why...this type of worship appeals to them, if they were in another type of worship, they would join every committee. Many choose a religion according to their personality...I'm a witness. But I'm not a chest beating witness. I know the bible & what it says. I will share with others what I hope will help them put their lives on the right track. I will lead them to the bible but if they want to come to the hall, I'll invite, but won't press...it's all up to them. I'm an opened minded witness, not sure how long that will last, & when I become closed minded...then I should exit stage left...Hope you Mom (Mum) doesn't go too far to put her health in danger..

  Ever wonder why the Dead Sea is dead...NO OUTLET...

  So many of the witnesses have no outlet...they are dead inside...

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  Observations about last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!

  draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.

  excruciatingly boring.

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  Hi,

  So if Jesus is Abaddon & Michael....both mentioned in Revelations...

  "nuf said...I digress..

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  Observations about last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!

  draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.

  excruciatingly boring.

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  Hi,

  Before Jesus was Michael the Archangel, now he is Abbadon...do you know how many witnesses didn't know that...all of them I spoke to. Many of them have been witnesses for years or even raised as a witness..& after all this time, Abbadon is now Jesus, they toss Jesus all over the place...this is another tactic to show how loving the org. is. They had to tell you something...ELSE.. you didn't know...see we are smarter than any other religion. This is a religion that started out to be a good idea, but they can't keep it up. They are afraid folks are waking up they are, but many might wake up to leave.

  Jesus is God's son, that's it...God said it, this is my son, not my angel, not Abbadon, not Michael...but just hold on...in a few years, they are going to make Jesus someone else...they ain't finished with him yet.

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  South Carolina Witness man kills family & himself....has anyone heard

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  heard a witness man from south carolina, killed his family & himself...has anyone heard ?

  don't think he killed himself because he was a witness, most likely crazy before he became a witness... legacy.

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  @quellycatface...

  I agree...many of witnesses send their reps. to the hall, meaning, they are not who they appear to be. Many witnesses are hurting inside but if they talk to anyone, they just say pray to God...So sad...Just was wondering why it wasn't mentioned on this site, they mention things that happen on the other side of the world, but right here in our own backyard, nope....

  So sad.

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  Why Do Some Ex-JWs Get Their Feelings Hurt So Badly By Shunning?

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ran in to a ex-jw and had a good laugh once he realized i was not going to shun him.

  i am a different soul when we are dealing with watchtower demonology, everything about the organization is fan boy based.

  watchtower creates the illusion of a community that never existed, we were too blind to realize most of the people we invested time with was nothing more than a farce, once you can't offer up more sacrfices on the watchtower's alter, your going to get less attention and eventually if your kingdom hall is big enough, they won't come looking for you.. .

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  Hi,

  I didn't read all the comments but what I think is that, it's ok, when you are doing the shunning but when it comes to bite you in the behind...you say, How could they. Most folks project, yet when it comes their time...a different story...Most while in say, well, DF'ing is scriptural & it keeps the org. clean...NOT...but when it happens to them...oh, much different story. But isn't that all kinds of people...tell folks to correct their children but when it comes to their children, nobody better not say nothing to them...I think many of the shunned or DF'd witness were hard core JW's ...they shunned, they gossiped, they judged. So to think it could & would happen to them...NOT...as my Mom says about the witnesses, they very highly of themselves. I'm a witness, I love the message...don't agree with Df'ing or shunning...now being spoken to if a member may be going astray, that's ok, but just talk to them & don't berate them...maybe they just need to talk to someone....When they talk about Df'ing, I shut up..why because it can happen to me...I hope not but one never knows do one? If they do, well, that's life, but no org. can keep me away from God or Jesus, their line is open anytime...So for me to be on board about DF'ing & shunning is just projecting....it's as if I like people to be punished...that's not for me...

  So, I think many get their feelings hurt is because they use to be the ones shunning...at one time.

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  South Carolina Witness man kills family & himself....has anyone heard

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  heard a witness man from south carolina, killed his family & himself...has anyone heard ?

  don't think he killed himself because he was a witness, most likely crazy before he became a witness... legacy.

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  Hi,

  Heard a witness man from South Carolina, killed his family & himself...Has anyone heard ? Don't think he killed himself because he was a witness, most likely crazy before he became a witness..

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  Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.

  not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.

  jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.

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  @sauloftarsus,

  Well said...I have been on this site for a short while...so much information, yet, as you say, GB's don't hear it, true witnesses don't believe it. When an ex witness has a chance to really TTATT, they back away or say or do something cleaver. Nothing ever comes of it...Mad at God, why, they are not mad at God, they are angry with themselves for believing stuff that they knew wasn't true, but blame God. Yet, some where the same before they left the Org. hitting folks over the head with their doctrine, shunning folks. As you say, why not knock all religious sects, none of them have it right...not one. The bible is just telling us how to be kind to one another...that's it....life lessons.

  I just wanted to comment on your comment...I feel the same way...I'm a witness, & I know, TTATT, but know TTATT re: all religions...Jesus is the way to God...so in plain English, follow him...imitate him, love like him...LOVE covers a multitude of sins...& makes the world go 'round..

  Legacy