Posts by Legacy

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Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

by hamsterbait in

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we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

hb.

Legacy

Hi,

There is a site, I won't mention the name. I was on if for a long time...alot of mud throwing. There were Witnesses, non-witnesses, & x-witnesses on that site. If you would dare ask the witness a question they would come at you like a rabid dog. They are always arguing...I was told I shouldn't be on the site, but I then came back to them & said, neither are they. Come to find out they were on the site making time. They used the site to get hours. They even admitted it. They used to argue back and forth with commenters, non-witnesses, witnesses who faded out & knew about the Society.

It was so funny because that's what I thought. They were making up their hours by being on this site. Brilliant...

The WT, can't nor won't shut down this site, how else would they find out the truth. Or what's the latest folks are not believing...I think they make adjustments from reading this site....If they did shut it down, it would look suspicious...folks would want to know why.....what would they be afraid of. If they have the ultimate truth, they shouldn't care about any JW website. But they know they don't & so do we.

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The Governing Body Need To Get Their Head Out From In Between Their Derrière And Start Reading What Apostate Sites Are Actually Saying

by frankiespeakin in

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it does no good for the governing body to burry their heads up their ass in denial as to what people who have left are saying about them and their insane selfserving teachings.

i know denial is a real bitch to deal with and i'm sure this bunch of over the hill gang will have a hard time doing google searches and they are probably not sure where to look but they oughta get some one to show them how to find all this information, this willful ignorance is really hurting them, and reality can come crashing in more horrible ways the longer the denial exist and is hiding valuable information you really need before you proceed to make better decisions for your company and the direction you want it to go..

Legacy

Hi,

Where do you think the Brighter Lights come from...web-sites...why are there so many changes, because so called apostates bring up certain scriptures from the bible that don't line up. You see back in the day, the public was at a disadvantage, so the witnesses could dance all over the publics head with their doctrine & who could debate them. But now, folks are reading the bible for themselves & so the org. can no longer back up some of their stuff...Remember July 2015, the new break-down...now JW.ORG...warned not to go on the internet...dangerous...now look. In NYC, they would complain about other religions being in the subway stations spouting the bible...now the org. has carts. I'm waiting for them to say Mike ain't Jesus....because we all know what Heb. 1 ** says, to what Angel did Jehovah say, Today you are my son...if you notice, they don't say that too much. There are too many rebuttals in the bible that don't point to Jesus being Mike, but sometimes folks are so smart, they shoot themselves in the foot. To explain how they came up with Mike as Jesus, only an intelligent person of the bible could discern that...oh really ?

They were once the smartest ones in the room, not anymore...Just imagine folks that go to JW.org...& see certain things then try to line it up with the scriptures, I think they bit off more than they can chew. The web-site has left them open for opinions...

Most of the GB's know TTATT, but why leave their cozy positions...

We all want the GB's to get their heads out of the sand, but it's really us wanting them to change, but it's us that just have to leave or change. If they did change would anyone stay or come back...it's us that have to take our heads out of their tails.

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Why Do Witnesses Promote A Unhealthy Lifestyle, My COBE weighs 340lbs (5ft 7in).

by BucketShopBill in

please don't take this the wrong way if your battling weight problems, that's not what this thread is meant to talk about.

i am asking this question because jehovah's witnesses claim they have "the best way of life", "god's blessing", "the truth" and are trying to change the habits of healthy people by turning them in to their own makings.

i watched people who were great athletes turn all their muscle in to fat because we would get a elder or circuit overseer make remarks they were spending too much time "working out" and "bodily training is beneficial for little".

Legacy

Hi,

The Society leaves you nothing else that you can do. You can't do this or that, mostly every illustration is about a meal...so what else can bring comfort, food...You can't question anything, so you stuff food in your mouth to keep from saying.."Hey, that's not what the bible is saying"...they drive everywhere. You would think the amount of walking in street witnessing & door to door they do out in the open air, they would be healthier than most...Most of the sisters have ankles the size of elephants...Most of the sisters always talking about their weight but when they go to a gathering, they put alot of food on their plates & bring tupperware for later....orally fixated, I say. When I go out in service, all they say, I'm hungry....When we start to go out in service, their is always one sister that says...do you mind, I need to go get some coffee & donut....we go & they take up all the time out in the field drinking coffee & eating donuts....then when we finally do go out in service, now they are tired....I try to eat before I go out in service...I'm good until about 3 or 4. I'm older so I try to watch my weight....if any on here are over 60, you know, weight just comes on, without eating...The friends think I'm finicky, but it's not that, I like to look nice in my clothes...then they sister, you have a nice shape....I thank them & say, in my head that is...You can too, if you push away from the table...If any of you went to this years convention, the amount of friends that were overweight was amazing, & some were disabled as well...Everybody can't be slim & trim, but to eat so much, you can't even see your feet. At the convention it was hot & humid, so some of the friends were just passing out all over the place.

Eating takes the place of so many things....sex, a big mouth, shunning....etc....It's just plain frustration....but they would never admit that.

So to answer the question Why do witnesses promote a unhealthy lifestyle, because they control all aspects of the congregations lifestyle.

Legacy

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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees

by jwfacts in

i used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.

i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.

i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .

Legacy

Hi,

You must remember...."They put God's Kingdom first". Most of them become teachers so they'll have alot of days off. I think this religion appeals to some of those who really don't want to work in the first place. How many have heard, could you simplyfy your life & go into full-time ministry ? For some that's LSD for them, stop working, just go out door to door, wow, that seems like a good idea. But they don't count the cost & believe the congregation will support them. There are bad employees everywhere...JW's need alot of time off, & think they are supposed to get it, in the name of religion. They may have just started a job & will go in the bosses office & say, now just letting you know when I HAVE to take off. Not even thinking when you first get a job you have to prove yourself first.

When I go out in service on Saturday, I hear how many went out in service during the week, it's amazing how many don't work. If they do they work part time & always ask me if I know of a job, I saw well, you can go to temp agencies, they say, well, I'm just looking for something part-time. Yet they complain how everything is expensive. Today's economy you can't buy full-time stuff on part-time money. But what I notice most of the friends in my congregation have houses...Go figure...well that's my 2 cents...

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Have you seen witnesses texting during meetings?

by yogosans14 in

i was dragged to the hall last sunday and wendsday and this woman infront of me was using her phone for the study articles and when we were getting up to do a song i saw her quickly sending a text, which shocked me because i know they dont allow that.

are the jws getting more and more leniant?.

Legacy

@fastjehu,

Brilliant....I do remember those KM's. As on said on this topic, they behave for a week & go back to doing just what they want. We are told what & when to do things...I think some listen & some don't...what is good today is bad tomorrow & what is bad today is good tomorrow...just like the Truth, what was false is not true & what was true is now false & they are the only Society that can get away with doing gymnastics....the flip flop of the meaning of the scriptures.

JW's truths are tomorrow lies....& they say the world is ever changing....ummmmm

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Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

by defender of truth in

a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

apathy allows it.

Legacy

Hi,

I think about this all the time...suppose there is no God...then I feel lost, the hope that he does exist I think gives us all some type of comfort, yet, why so much suffering. He has the power to prevent, yet when his son was on the stake/cross, he didn't save his own son. When I think God exist then I get sad, because why doesn't he step in, but maybe he does & we don't recognize it. To think we are praying & there is no one to answer....

The best question to ask is...why did he make humans in the first place...just to watch a show or something. I think of my parents, they try to prevent, protect & provide for me & that reminds me of God, but when you read the OT, he killed alot of folks..if I didn't obey my folks, would they kill me, if I turned to others as my parents would my parents kill me...ummm

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Have you seen witnesses texting during meetings?

by yogosans14 in

i was dragged to the hall last sunday and wendsday and this woman infront of me was using her phone for the study articles and when we were getting up to do a song i saw her quickly sending a text, which shocked me because i know they dont allow that.

are the jws getting more and more leniant?.

Legacy

Hi,

How many reminders do we get at assemblies, conventions, & from the platform. What's that scripture that says, if one looks in the mirror to check themselves & forget what they see...Don't gossip, don't do this or that, but what happens, they do it anyway, but if a witness see's you do it, they say, We are not supposed to do such & such...We even get reminders to be nice, how many times must that be said...I figure either you are nice or not. When you are growing up, your parents remind of certain things, then you are on your own....when you are grown, do your parents still have to remind you to take your umbrella & rainboots ? When does it sink in...if ever. When men can't control themselves they make rules for others, not themselves...Just a thought...

I remember a person commented on this site, a person would be nice if they were a JW or not a JW. A person would be mean spirited in or out...

No texting...but the world is addicted to it, so it's a train you can't stop. Remember when they said no electronics from the platform & what are they doing, using them on the platform..'nuf said...

Legacy

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Controversial Opinion: Why the web site campaign is actually brilliant

by Apognophos in

there's a lot of talk right now about how stupid it is to have jws hand out leaflets with urls on them.

"why go to someone's door to tell them they can visit a web site that lets them ask for someone to come to their door?

" well, i'm sorry, but i have to weigh in with a contrary opinion here on how clever the society is.

Legacy

Hi,

Sooo true....I now look at it differently. When you go door to door, you don't always get the smartest person, some are social misfits, or shut-ins. I do have in my congregation some pretty intelligent folks, with degrees & such. Wonder what attracted them to the Truff...Apro..., excellent view.

Thumbs up...

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Have you seen witnesses texting during meetings?

by yogosans14 in

i was dragged to the hall last sunday and wendsday and this woman infront of me was using her phone for the study articles and when we were getting up to do a song i saw her quickly sending a text, which shocked me because i know they dont allow that.

are the jws getting more and more leniant?.

Legacy

Hi,

I sure do, but when you text them & don't get back to you (when you are not in meetings), they always have some lame excuse why they didn't get back to you. I go out in service & they are checking their phones all the time. But when you text them, & they claim they never saw you text...Oh sure... Yet we hear from the platform, make sure you are turn off your electronic devices at the meetings, & out in service, assemblies & conventions...Now, if you are a witness & most of us or them associate with other witnesses, who are they text'in? Most are out in service or at a meeting too, & if not & they should know that whoever is texting their schedule...So, what comes to mind are 2 things, witnesses can tell you what to do, yet not do it themselves & they have association with folks that ain't in the truth...& they don't know when they are at a meeting, so that also lends to the fact that when they are not at meetings, they are not always sick..but associating with non-JW's..

That's just my opinion..

Legacy

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Can anyone disprove 607 BCE date using only the NWT and WT literature?

by Bart Belteshassur in

i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.

in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.

once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.

Legacy

Hi,

I have old editions of the encylcopedia's that my Mom bought for me way way back....I'm a baby boomer..1950's & up...& they say a different date, 586 or something like that...they are very old editions...now, I have seen in WT literature that they quote from the Encyclopodia's when they want to make a point that they researched the subject. That's that only proof I have.

Guess that is secular, uh ? But I could defend myself by saying, I'm just quoting what the encyclopedia is saying, & if I'm not mistaken you do too...

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