maybe the voices are inanimate
gitasatsangha
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we could be any were
by kls indid you ever wonder when youre out in youre car or in a store or just being around people , it could be someone from in here,or you hear someone talking and you think, ,,,that sounds like so and so,,, could it be ?
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What's Your Favourite War Movie???
by dottie inwell since everyone's mind is on the obvious...thought i'd add a twist to it and hopefully no flame war will come of it .
what is your fave war movie??
i have 2: full metal jacket and apocalypse now.
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gitasatsangha
Platoon
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Is America going to allow another Turkish atrocity? ... escalation?
by Simon inin their rush to bomb iraq, it seem that america has cut a deal with turkey to allow overflights, thus allowing b52's from the uk to launch cruise missiles etc ... .
the turkish army is moving into northern iraq !!.
10,000 troops.
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gitasatsangha
COMF it shouldn't defy your logic to understand the concept of a well informed voting electorate. In the USA, for better or worse anyone potential voter (or potential soldier for that matter.. I can't remember if the US Armed forces currently allow former felons to enlist, anyway I digress) is an integral part of the government, because he elects the government and he SHOULD stay informed. The concept of vote-and-hands-off went away with the demise of the Federalist party sometime in the early 19th century. An uneducated electorate lends itself towards extremism. Bush is a borderline fascist. My only point of comfort about the man is that he did not win the popular vote in 2000.
Back to the question you asked. I already addressed why succintly but I will return to it, again. The Kurdish-Turkish problem didn't happen in some isolated cave. Certainly many Europeans knew about it. Turkey is a NATO partner and the matter should have been better understood. It wasn't. Iraq AND Turkey have been getting medieval on the Kurds for ages, but this has increased a great deal in the nineties. The fact that Bush I (and to some degree Clinton) used the Iraqi Kurds to their own ends and then left them to basically be slaughtered by Saddam was not spoken about in traditional American media for a number of reasons. One is that NBC, CNN, ABC, and CBS, along with the newer agencies, realized all along that keeping a lot of international coorespondants and branch offices in the world is expensive. They cut back. At the same time the news was becoming more oriented around heart-string tugger. You know, baby trapped in a well, pretty rich white kid abducted, your Tax Dollers Wasted, sniper in Fairfax, and so on. It was cheaper and got more people interested. It takes a very dramatic event to get CNN interested in paying Ms Amanpour's travel tickets. The wire services still provided stories but mostly these were relegated to three inch column stories, The situation was so terrible that events in East Timor took everyone in America by complete suprise.
So.. the How part. There are other avenues of finding out information. You simply have to look for it. I am not expecting everyone to become well versed on everything. That is silly. But if you are prepare to go in a country, raise hell and kill a bunch of people, you should know the whole story. If you don't know the whole story, what seperated you from any other mindless jingoistic imperialist killer?
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Is America going to allow another Turkish atrocity? ... escalation?
by Simon inin their rush to bomb iraq, it seem that america has cut a deal with turkey to allow overflights, thus allowing b52's from the uk to launch cruise missiles etc ... .
the turkish army is moving into northern iraq !!.
10,000 troops.
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gitasatsangha
Could you give me a brief rundown on both why and how "most Americans" should have this information?
When you are part of a country that claims to be democratic, and war is imminent, it is best to be aware of the whole situation. Yellow ribbons aren't substitutes for brains.
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Merchants of this sinful world keep courting the Harlot of Babylon
by gitasatsangha inhere, now you rebels!
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food at the proper time.. .
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I said: 'Thank you for planting ur seed; I know I've planted mine'...
by sf in...as two nice jws (woman and her grandson, about 13 it appeared) just departed my property (i've got to get that fence soon!).
i am so proud of myself!!
{{{{{{{ hugs skally }}}}}}} .
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gitasatsangha
WTG Skally
"love.. soft as an easy chair"
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Who is the current "King of the South"?
by Azalo inever since the ussr fell it seems the jw's have been trying to find anyone to proclaim the king of the south (sorry if thats not how u say it but i'm just directly translating "rey del sur" ) just wondering if anyone knows who is the latest suspect, n korea maybe?
by the way, another example of how elitist the wts is, albeit subtle, why isnt the us the king of the south?
after all geographically speaking the former ussr is further north than the us.
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gitasatsangha
One possible suspect:
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What are your favorite song lyrics?
by berylblue inmine are a toss between:.
"and had i but known last summer, what i now understand.
i'd have never set my foot inside this bleak and bitter land".
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gitasatsangha
I should pay more attention to Al Steward, I think.
For some reason these lyrics by Stuard Adamson (RIP) keep coming to mind since the bombs started falling: (song is "Close Action" by Big Country)
A score of years this line has run
Above the crests that drown the sun
A mile high the turbines turned
The stokers sweat the monkeys burnedI will carry you home
With the gods in my eyes
I will carry you home
While the westerlies sighThe continents will fly apart
The oceans scream and never part
Divided souls can never rest
Must join the nations break the testI will carry you home
With the gods in my eyes
I will carry you home
While the westerlies sighI will carry you home
With the gods in my eyes
I will carry you home
While the westerlies sighFor endless hours the sirens wail
Await the tide that brings the sail
Cling the walls and close the shore
The lovers wait who walk no moreI will carry you home
With the gods in my eyes
I will carry you home
While the westerlies sighI will carry you home
With the gods in my eyes
I will carry you home
While the westerlies sighI will carry you home
I will carry you home
I will carry you home
I will carry you home -
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #42
by ozziepost ini guess you're rather preoccupied with other things this weekend but let's spend a moment or two in thinking about our yesterdays.
yes, it's time for our weekend poll.
it's number 42 this weekend.
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gitasatsangha
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you had to have a certain amount of hours if you wanted "priviledges" like microphone duty, the literature counter, sound, etc.
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Is America going to allow another Turkish atrocity? ... escalation?
by Simon inin their rush to bomb iraq, it seem that america has cut a deal with turkey to allow overflights, thus allowing b52's from the uk to launch cruise missiles etc ... .
the turkish army is moving into northern iraq !!.
10,000 troops.
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gitasatsangha
The Turks don't want an independant Kurdistan state. They might just be sending troops there to make the Kurds realize that they REALLY don't want an independant Kurdistan
