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  What kind of music do you like?

  by JH in

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  what kind of music do you like?

  what groups do you listen to?.

  do you just listen to music from your generation only or do you also like music from the past?.

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  gitasatsangha

  Hillary,

  Was Robyn Hitchcock ever in Soft Machine? (I can't remember, but that may be due to the amount of rum my liver is munching through at the moment)
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  Organized Mail-Outs To The Society.

  by shamus in

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  what would everyone think about flooding the society once a week, for as long as it takes about their bloodguilty actions in regard to their sexual abuse coverup?

  if you were to think about it.... getting 500 letters from individuals every week would certainly get their attention, would it not?.

  obviously, there would be many details to be worked out... i think that a generic letter, that you could cut, paste, and print out would be excellent.

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  gitasatsangha

  What would be the goal of such a mail out? And what would its chance of success in reaching that goal be?
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  Just saw a great movie

  by DanTheMan in

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  if you haven't seen "man on the moon" where jim carrey plays andy kauffman, do yourself a favor and rent it.

  this is one of the best movies i've seen in a long time..

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  gitasatsangha

  I sometimes expect Andy Kauffman will appear one day and say the whole thing was just another prank he and Zmuda worked up.

  A very good movie, indeedy!
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  Watchtower Society 13 Step Survival Guide for 21st Century

  by gitasatsangha in

  1. watchtower
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  congrats watchtower.

  you've survived the 19th and 20th centuries.

  no mean feat.

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  gitasatsangha

  Congrats Watchtower. You've survived the 19th and 20th centuries. No mean feat. As God was saying to Homer Simpson, most religions don't make it through the first six months. But you are looking pretty weak coming into the 21st Century. Here are some suggestions on how to keep existing, and still fleece your flock.

  A few things the WTS could do to stay alive (maybe they read apostates for tips)

  • Stop mentioning the 1914 thing for five or six years, take the books still harping on it out of print (or revise them), and finally have new light on the whole thing.
  • Stop, or at least move away from "field service" as it is now. It does not work. Move into advertising, as well using "informal witness" tactics like hospices, international volunteer work, and other forms of "Service".
  • Use some obscure old testament scripture to show "New Light" that brothers and sisters should have lotsa babies. A high birthrate is one of the societies only immediate sources of sustainable numbers. Two is not enough.
  • Informally promote JWs as THE alternative religion for minorities in countries such as USA. When people get tired of the Southern Baptists, let em drop money at the Kingdom Hall.
  • Communalize the witnesses. Not necessarilly Amish style, but have these poorly educated suckers share what they got and not have to worry as much about "the world". Isolate them.
  • Allow for polygamy for non-elders, as is scriptural. This will siphon out non-elder material and allow the Witness culture to continue to be paternally dominated. In lands were polygamy is illegal, allow for non-state recognized domestic unions, with marriages carried out privately by the Elders.
  • Develop higher standards for being an elder. Require intensive education, background checks, testing, and tutorship.
  • Institute a department of internal affairs strictly for elders and other persons in positions of responsibility.
  • After the certification of elders begins (see above) remove any trace of legal connection from the WTS to the watchtower short of requirement that elders be approved by the WTS and their criteria. This will remove any possible legal action from the watchtower in cases such as child molestation. At the same time if the elders are properly monitored (see above), then possibly repeated criminal conduct by the watchtower can be reduced.
  • Completely drop the blood issue.
  • Prepare to handle "right now" possible schisms, especially in third world countries where they have little control by developing local strategies differing where necessary.
  • Set up a JW university. Something with decent academics even if it has a terrible philosophy (sort of like Bob Jones University) If you can't stop em from going to college at least keep them in the fold. Keep it unaccredited though, so no one will be able to transfer out without loosing a lot of time and money. Consider setting up these universities in many areas around the world.
  • Drop disfellowshipping and Disassociation as they currently stand. Leave the apostates nothing to counterattack. Instead make non-reptantance to the elders for wrong doing, a cause for the person to not be allowed to one meeting only: the memorial.

  ok I dont want the society to survive. I'd laugh if it closed shop tonight. but I was thinking what could be done to save it (even if it were evil) and these are some things I came up with.
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  Changing of the Guard

  by Thirdson in

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  my mother attended the funeral of an elderly jw recently.

  the person that passed away was in her 90's had been a jw since the 1930's and her late husband was one of the "annointed" although she didn't claim that for herself.

  every few months i hear of old jws passing away.

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  They've still got the third world countries. They have to rely on them for new numbers more and more. But they don't bring in the bacon.
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  Did you know anyone who commited suicide in the org?

  by JH in

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  back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.

  his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.

  he was always controlled by his father.

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  gitasatsangha

  I can only list suicide attempts. I'm not aware (of have forgotten) of any successful attempts. I can think of half-dozen attempts in the circuit I was in that I was aware of. (several of these were in my family).
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  What kind of music do you like?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what kind of music do you like?

  what groups do you listen to?.

  do you just listen to music from your generation only or do you also like music from the past?.

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  gitasatsangha

  Pink Floyd goes back farther then the 70's. If you've never heard some Syd Barrett era Floyd, try and get some. It's well worth the search.
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  What kind of music do you like?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what kind of music do you like?

  what groups do you listen to?.

  do you just listen to music from your generation only or do you also like music from the past?.

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  gitasatsangha

  Blues,Rock, Jazz, Acid Jazz, old Techno (don't like the new stuff), Alternative, Bluegrass, did I mention Blues, Tadap, Ska, Polka, Classical, Bhajans, Rai, Bhangra, World Music, Reggae, Folk, Punk, Heavy Metal, and even a little hip hop.
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  Quick stock up...its a Bank holiday...

  by ScoobySnax in

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  wandered down to tesco this evening, and took me about 2 minutes to understand why it was unusually packed solid.

  of course its a bank holiday on monday and there might might be a run on bread/milk type of shortage.

  why do people go crazy stocking up just because the stores will be closed for 1 day.

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  I didnt know they had memorial day in the UK. Something new for me to learn, I guess.
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  WT video "Protect Your Children" wins Award! (gag)

  by badwillie in

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  http://jw-media.org/edu_videos/psa4e2856.htm

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  gitasatsangha

  now I know how the Israelis felt when Arafat got a nobel prize.