You forgot. Jehovah will make a miracle.
Trust in him, you silly one with no faith ;-)
the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.
http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.
so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.
You forgot. Jehovah will make a miracle.
Trust in him, you silly one with no faith ;-)
i read in a european ex jw forum that this year they are making a special effort to invite not only the inactive but also a special effort is made to invite all disfellowshipped.
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i don't know if this as always been a common practice, or something started anew so they can boast about the numbers of attendees..
If my family or any others invite me, i'll tell them: "Don't worry, I will commemorate Jesus death but in my way. Do you really think I will go there and be stared at but shunned by anyone?"
Then I would open a good bottle of wine and think how happy I am that I left this organisation.
the tide of disbelief is rising and only fools think they can stop it.
but some are too stupid to understand that fact, as this news story from saudi arabia demonstrates:.
american ally saudi arabia is the perpetrator of this crime against humanity.
Saudi Arabia is not very much different to IS concerning human rights.
My highest respect to everyone standing firm for their human rights in Saudi Arabia.
The same happened to Rafik Badawi, and he didn't even criticize Islam, just had a blog supporting free speech.
first let me introduce my self, i am a 33yo male show spent much of his youth in the jw cult, i was not raised into the truth however thought i found it at the age of 11 when a well caring brother knocked my door, i had no father figure so this brother was everything to me, like a father, i quickly began attending meetings even when my mom used to oppose, i was taken like an example kid because i was an "orphan" in the spiritual sense, i got baptized when i was 12, and spent the rest of my teenage years being this good kid everyone thought i was, i hated that attention and pressure however it felt good to be doing good things, when i was about to finish high school i started to get into punk and ska music, i used to listen to it in secret, one time an elder found out and went to my house when i wasnt there, he went into my room and took all my cds, this was my first time i felt like i was being invaded of my privacy, i was made to feel guilty for liking this music and lost all my priviledges..theres a lot more i can say but i will stick to the main points, i became a reg pioneer, i became an ms, the whole thing, living in new york allowed me to visit bethel many times and had many many friends there, at the head quarters and walkill, in my cong we had bethelite elders etc, so yeah i was "in the club" , i always had a doubt in the back of my mind if what i was doing was the right thing, i used to rent the basement out of en elders house, he is what made me turn, he was the mos unloving person i ever met, for instance he would turn off the heat during snow storms, sometimes due to my pioneering i had no food and he knew this, well no food from him etc.
yet all this time i thought i was doing the right thing, eventually i feel in love and started dating this beautiful pioneer girl, daughter of pioneer parents as well, i never felt fully excepted because of my spiritual orphan status and no family in the truth, eventually got to a point where i could not communicate with her and her parents used to pick up the calls, they told me i could not continue to pursue a relationship with her, i was devastated!
long story short i wanted to see her etc, they put a restraining order and labeled me a stalker, made a mistake of sending her an e-mail and well, that got me arrested!!
Welcome no doubter.
How good it is to be out of this org and not having doubts about that.
I wish you a lot of joy and happiness in your way of life and looking forward to read more of your posts.
according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
DD you are awesome.
Jarhoobity!!!!
Thats my laugh for tonight.
;-)
during the post-awards interview, the director said that the story is not over.
it's still ongoing.
could this have been a vieled jab at jws, and/or a hint at a spotlight part 2?
those of you fading- with the memorial approaching are you going to appease family?
not going and making up an excuse?
acting like your going but not really?.
Missing it for the first time.
Sorry ElderNewton, I like your way of handling it but accidentally pressed dislike.
i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.
i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.
my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.
Welcome Thomas.
Very nice that you introduced yourself.
Even though you sometimes might feel to be stuck; you are free.... Free to live according to your conscience and not anymore by illogical and unloving rules of a human organisation.
You have your whole life to figure out what you wanna believe or not believe. But one thing is important. Be positive and enjoy life.... it is wonderful.
All the best in your situation.
just looking for some of your views / advice:i am divorced and am together with my dear boy every second weekend for 2.5 days.
he is now 3 years old and heavily indoctrinated by his mum and grandmother.today he told me: "daddy, jehovah is high up in heaven.
we can't see him, but he is there.
Last October we celebrated his birthday and he liked it.
At the next visit he told me that Jehovah doesn't like birthdays. I asked him if it is something good, when a baby is born. He said yes and I told him that likewise our heavenly Papa is happy when he was born and that he loves him very much, so birthday can't be bad (it is at this age so difficult to counteract on indoctrination and not to indoctrinate him myself).
Once I picked him up at the Kindergarten. He enthusiastically showed me their christmas tree and his eyes were shining. Then he told me, Jehovah does not like Christmas trees. I asked him: "Do you like this Christmas tree?" And he says "Yes." I just answered. "I know, Jehovah doesn't like many things."
just looking for some of your views / advice:i am divorced and am together with my dear boy every second weekend for 2.5 days.
he is now 3 years old and heavily indoctrinated by his mum and grandmother.today he told me: "daddy, jehovah is high up in heaven.
we can't see him, but he is there.
Thank you so much for your excellent advice.
He said it in the beginning of my visit after I picked him up from Kindergarden.
I told him there are many names for God and that I just call him dear Papa in heaven but that I don't believe in Jehovah (it is confusing, but I'd like him to know that I don't believe in Jehovah).
I told him that people believe in many different things and gods or that also many don't believe in god at all and that he is free to believe what he likes.
After that for the next 2 days he didn't say anything about Jehovah but enjoyed our time having fun, playing, reading stories etc.
And he didn't attend the convention because he was with me ;-)