Posts by Daniel1555

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How are awake JWs going to deal with the life and death, Dual Power of Suicide, no blood card issue?

by Island Man in

there was a recent leak of a letter to congregations regarding a new dpa no blood card.

part of the letter reads as follows:.

as a reminder, you should provide copies of your completed advance decision document to (1) those who served as witnesses, (2) your general practitioner (doctor), and (3) your congregation secretary.

Daniel1555

Remember....

.... they don't have any power over you, except you give it to them.

Train it many times (not only for this blood card matter but for all the matters concerning elders).

Elder: "We need a copy of your blood card." or "We need to talk to you in the backroom."

Awake JW: "My dear brother, Thank you so much for your concern/help/personal interest. I appreciate it very much that you care for me. BUT NO. I DON'T SEE IT NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF MY BLOOD CARD! / NO, I DON'T NEED YOUR VISIT RIGHT NOW. If ever I see the need (for having my bloodcard / visit) I will let you know."

Train it often so that you can say it in your sleep. Then enjoy the reaction on their faces.

They might ask further but you need to stick to it.

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Breaking news - from reliable insider source - GB member Sanderson to wed

by sir82 in

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not only that, but apparently it is to a transgender female.. new light wt article regarding "born that way" transgenders as a "conscience matter" to be released in the august 15 wt.. more details here..

Daniel1555

Lol

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Hello Everyone!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

my name is christian and my wife is katja, and we have been out of the organization for a year and a half.

we were both regular pioneers and i was a ministerial servant.

we were very much happy to be witnesses and doing our best to do more for the organization.

Daniel1555

Dear Christian and Katja

I looked at some of your videos now. I literally cried, because you do that in such a kind, loving and supportive way.

You are a great help for JWs seeing your videos, for JWs having doubts and for ex jws too.

Thank you so much.

Love

Daniel

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New Light - Two Sticks in Ezekiel - July 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

ezekiel 37:15-17 prophesies about two sticks being joined together to become 1. one stick represented the two tribe kingdom of judah and the other stick represented the 10 tribe of israel (ephraim).

the article explains how the coming together of these two sticks meant the reuniting of these tribes in 537 bce.the modern day fulfillment was previously taught to mean that the anointed had once again come together in unity in these last days.the july watchtower now explains that one stick, the stick of judah, represents the anointed and the other stick, the stick of ephraim, represents the other sheep.

they further explain that since 1919 god's people have gradually reunited to become one flock.they are now saying that the other sheep are represented by 10 tribes of israel.

Daniel1555

No type and antitype anymore!!! Lol

They are even fooling themselves....

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Daniel1555

Those who think the WT stance on shunning has loosened, I recommend to look at this thread.

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Shunning: is it still practiced?

by FinchAndWeston in

are df, da and apostates still shunned?

are each treated differently?

i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...

Daniel1555

DataDog

It is official policy to shun df/da family members.

The flock book just states that family members will not be disfellowshipped if they don't shun. They will however be counselled and might get some restrictions.

I could point you to several WT articles where they wrote, that df/da family members MUST be shunned, not having even the slightest bit of communication, not even by email says one article. They just allow communication for very important and necessary family matters or if the dfd teenager still lives at home.

Here is a thread of the latest example, which will be studied in the WT during end of April (Feb 16 WT). It is a shocking and cruel example, as they write that a daughter should shun her dfd mother who is feeling lonely.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6530599930036224/new-watchtower-propaganda-hate-speech-destroying-families-feb-2016-wt

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Shunning: is it still practiced?

by FinchAndWeston in

are df, da and apostates still shunned?

are each treated differently?

i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...

Daniel1555

It certainly didn't ease.

On the contrary it has become more strict.

They emphasize shunning in every once a while in the WT and conventions (see Feb 16 WT and Summer 16 conventions).

They blatantly say that daughters need to completely shun df parents and vice versa.

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I lied to the elders

by atacrossroads in

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i stopped attending meetings all together in january 2015. before that my attendance was irregular at best.

my husband followed suit a few months ago after months of research, agony, and indecision on his part.

from the very beginning i laid low and did not share with anyone what i found out about the witnesses because i did not want to be df'd.

Daniel1555

You did well as others said.

I just want to mention that maybe the relationship to your parents is not lost. I am df for apostasy and have a normal and loving relationship to them. Maybe this is an exception, as my parents never liked the shunning of family members. But let me give you an idea what I would do in your case.

Talk to your dad or / and your mum in a gentle and calm way. Maybe apologise that you might have come across as rough.

Then tell them that you fully respect their religious feelings, but that you also like them to respect yours.

The best way to still continue a relationship with them if YOU AGREE THAT YOU DISAGREE and NOT TALK ABOUT RELIGION ANYMORE or just not critizizing each others religious views.

This can only work though if your parents are tolerant and liberal as mine are.

Anyway I wish you good luck. How nice that your husband is on your side.

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Status update and hello.

by Darkknight757 in

i haven't posted here in a few months and to be honest i haven't been lurking either.

i hope everyone is doing well.😊 i wanted to take a minute to let you know how things have been the last few months.. recently the brothers decided to finally consider my letter of resignation.

they met with me alone and i let them know why i have become inactive as a publisher and why i no longer wish to serve as an elder in the congregation.

Daniel1555

Dear darknight

You did very well how you handled your resignation and inactivity.

From your words I sense that your wife also sees the flaws in this organisation.

I read your older threads and feel with you about the loss of your babies. This is a very sad and traumatic situation for you and your wife. You are going to grieve support meetings? Continue to do that.

Me and my wife lost a baby very early in the pregnancy, just a few days after we knew about the pregnancy. Because it was so early, the trauma wasn't as bad as if it happened later. Sadly this happens to many pregnancies. We later had a healthy and wonderful boy. However we are divorced now because of this cult indoctrination, but thats another story.

Concerning God I still believe there is a 'God' of love, however completely different to the biblical description of God. But I understand if you have lost your belief in a God. This is a very personal matter.

I was also an elder and had to go through this resignation process. How I did that and my experiences you can see in my older threads. Now I am df'd for apostasy and I am happy to be free to live a moral life according to my conscience.

I wish you and your wife all the best from my heart, that you can stick together and be free of this cults indoctrination and that you can go joyful through life despite every burden you are carrying.

Love Dani

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

Daniel1555

Wow... now they openly use the word "shun."

In the past they tried to avoid this word. And a whole convention on loyalty. I wish the active jws a lot of joy inviting people with this crazy theme.

SHUN UNREPENTANT WRONGDOERS

Unrepentant wrongdoers sounds very bad like murderer or terrorist. But who is an unrepentant wrongdoer in jws eyes?

Could be...

... any JW celebrating christmas or birthdays!

... a teenager JW smoking.

... jw parents who in a medical urgency allow the doctor to use a life saving blood transfusion for their child.