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  No More Literal Peaceful Animals in Paradise?

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is a quote in the new june episode of jw broadcasting, which says isaiah 11:6 applies to people inside the congregations now who have their personalities transformed.. in the 1980's and 1990's, when i attended meetings all the time, i always heard them say this scripture had a literal fulfillment and the animals will be at peace with one another.. here is the scripture:.

  isaiah 11:6 (nwt): the wolf will reside for a while with the lamb, and with the young goat the leopard will lie down, and the calf and the lion and the fattened animal will all be together; and a little boy will lead them.. after hearing the quote, i did a search on jw.org, and i found this statement regarding that scripture:.

  isaiah book 1, pages 163-165:.

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  Daniel1555

  When they speak to children it is a literal understanding talking about their pet zoo in paradise.

  When talking to a sceptic it's a symbolic understanding.
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  You call praying stupid because it is speaking to someone who doesn't exist.

  How do you know that no god or higher power exists? Can you prove that?

  Better to say "I BELIEVE praying is stupid because I BELIEVE god or a higher power doesn't exist.

  You seem to still apply JW black and white thinking like what I believe is "the truth."
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  Ideas how to answer a jw friend

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded completely (no kh visits or field service).. just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:.

  "dear daniel.

  it's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall.

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  Daniel1555

  Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

  I'll let you know tomorrow evening what I write and how she takes it.
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  No longer the cobe

  by iwasblind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sorry this is duplicate because i posted the other one in private and did not mean to.. hey guys,.

  fade started.. no longer the cobe as of this week.

  had the co last week and managed to relieve myself of it.

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  Daniel1555

  Very good.

  Take it step by step.

  I was an elder too. It was such a relief when I stepped backbas an elder.

  Even more so now as I completely faded.

  I wish you all the best.
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  Ideas how to answer a jw friend

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded completely (no kh visits or field service).. just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:.

  "dear daniel.

  it's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall.

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  Daniel1555

  I faded completely (no kh visits or field service).

  Just recently a close friend from the kh wrote:

  "Dear Daniel. It's a pity that we don't see you anymore at the kingdom hall. It's a pity / I am sad that this way of life is not right for you anymore."

  She knows that I left because jw doctrins are going against my conscience.

  How would you answer?
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  Funny conversation with my kids today

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my 11 year old kid comes up today during breakfast and tells me.... my friends at school are playing this new game.

  they balance a pencil over something else and then they put a paper under the pencil with the words "yes" and "no".

  they then ask "charlie, charlie, are you in the room?".

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  You really have a smart kid who can think for himself.

  You can be really proud of him and the chances are great, that he is not easily indoctrinated.
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  One month researching my doubts: my crucial issues with WTBTS - what are yours?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so after 20 years a convert, about a month ago i decided to start listening to my doubts and to do independent research about the wtbts teachings (naughty me).

  as a result i have consolidated my position on various points and these are my major issues with the wtbts teachings, i am posting these to help myself figure things out (with your assistance) and hopefully to hear from others at their stage of drawing away from the gb - newbies' especially.

  in the form of notes so hope you dont mind...child abuse.

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  Wow.. tornintwo...

  Welcome....

  You listened to your doubts for only 1 month and you already see most of the problems, unloving and illogic things in JW doctrine.

  To do research and to write my thoughts down helped me also a great deal.

  By doing this, listening and living according to your conscience, you are free. Free from the bondage of the watchtower.

  Concerning blood it was so helpful to read many of the older posts under "blood." A great impression made all the ajwrb articles, the posts of marvin shilmer, scully and of cofty, jensen letters, the case of a guy from belgium who went to brooklyn to ask the gb about his doubts, and the disassociation letter of 1 elder mainly because of blood.

  I also suggest to you to read Crisis of Conscience and in Searc8h of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz. These books are a real eye opener and are written with so much respect and also love.

  I truly understand that you are torn in two especially because of your family. Just think, you made already a big step. You have time. Be especially kind and loving to your family, respecting them but also being true to your inner feelings and conscience. This is very difficult. I think your family will get to know maybe in different ways, that you think and feel differently about religion. Will they respect you, your feelings? Or would they place their loyalty to this organisation ahead of everything, even you and your family? In my case my wife did that and we are sadly in divorce now. I view her not as an opposer but as a victim of this organisation. For others it is manageable to still have a good and respectful family life, even though the feelings about religion are different.

  I wish you all the best for your personal way to inner peace and freedom and also to cope with all obstacles that you have to deal with.
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  Lett's pinky ring is back

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you thought that stephen lett came to realize finally, that wearing a pinky ring doesn't seem modest, you are wrong.. in the introduction video to the video "what is true love?

  " of the convention releases day 3, he is as lunatic as ever and wearing his pinky ring again.. thank you, governing body.

  let "lett" talk in front of the worldwide convention audience and in your broadcasts, and you will wake up more jw's than any other means might do..

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  Daniel1555

  If you thought that Stephen Lett came to realize finally, that wearing a pinky ring doesn't seem modest, you are wrong.

  In the introduction video to the video "What is true love?" of the convention releases day 3, he is as lunatic as ever and wearing his pinky ring again.

  Thank you, governing body. Let "Lett" talk in front of the worldwide convention audience and in your broadcasts, and you will wake up more jw's than any other means might do.
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  So I decided to do it.

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, so i went ahead and got a tattoo.

  well more than a tattoo, it is a half sleeve.

  my parents haven't seen it, thanks to the chilly weather i've been wearing a sweater around them.

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  I am thinking of doing the same.

  Just the name of my son on my wrist.

  I will be doing this not for any other person but for myself and it would have a great meaning for me. So I don't care of others reactions.

  My parents don't like tattoos at all. But it is a good way to show them that I am truly free.
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  Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

  then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

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  Confused

  You can find these letters and declarations on jwfacts.

  I think it is legitimate, that they had first a government friendly tone in their letter to the "Reichskanzler."

  What I find controversial is their "flattering" or somehow anti-semitic tone, which was obviously part of their "theocratic warfare."