The JW's always "win"... if they site gets banned: persecution! If the site does NOT get banned: blessing from Jehovah! They are the "true religion" either way.
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ILoveTTATT
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JW.org to be banned in Russia
by redvip2000 inmy facebook was "lit up" today with all the out cries about the possibility of the organization's website being banned in russia.. as many of you recall this past august a court in russia banned the website and sought to make accessing the website in russia illegal.
well tomorrow the appeal by the org will be heard in court.
if the appeal is denied, jw.org will no longer be available in that part of the world, causing endless lamentations and cries of "persecution", only to bolster the idea that they are truly hated by the world because they are true christians.
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JW.org to be banned in Russia
by redvip2000 inmy facebook was "lit up" today with all the out cries about the possibility of the organization's website being banned in russia.. as many of you recall this past august a court in russia banned the website and sought to make accessing the website in russia illegal.
well tomorrow the appeal by the org will be heard in court.
if the appeal is denied, jw.org will no longer be available in that part of the world, causing endless lamentations and cries of "persecution", only to bolster the idea that they are truly hated by the world because they are true christians.
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ILoveTTATT
Gotta hand it to the Russians.... they got a bit more balls in being tough with freedom of religion. It's a double-edged sword though. Politicians have a tough time balancing different rights..
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ILoveTTATT
Lmao! It IS pretty funny when you think about it!!
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2014 Yearbook Stats - 7 Countries account for > 50% growth
by Westenddave ini thought i'd share the 2014 yearbook stats.
i converted the file to excel format & sorted the increase in publisher's column from largest to smallest.
as i suspected, the growth is limited to a very few # of "lands.
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ILoveTTATT
Your ecuador number is clearly wrong... Might want to check it
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
On the one hand... I would love to just be done with it... place a general status on FB and watch how the number of "friends" dwindle. Just come out of the closet... But, maybe some will be curious and actually go to freedomofmind or jwfacts....
WHY, WHY??? Why can't I just leave... no fight... just leave???
I need help... thankfully my job covers counsellors in the health plan... I need help to control my emotions and keep a cool head...
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
Huh... my head is spinning!! lol the cousin who did not react negatively actually knows TTATT and has been fading for years!! lmao!!
What you don't know...
Ok I am in damage control mode:
1. Try to stay in the house as much as possible. Promise to my mom not to talk about the subject, so that I keep the peace. Enjoy my last moments with them.
2. Do jgnat's suggestion.... try to rebuild the relationship.
3. I don't want to be DF'd/DA... but I can't keep ignoring/avoiding the elders forever. Eventually they'll find me in my home. Perhaps move? Even within my same city, but different place? Then when the job allows it, go to the other city?
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
I have a success story: One of my cousins! She agreed whole-heartedly with what I told her... just asked me to not go crazy once I am out with bad things...
She said that she wouldn't stop talking to me, except that secretly. She told me she had been talking to my other cousin who is also DF'd, and that she dislikes teaching her son the Bible Stories book with all the killings and bad stuff in the Bible. She had been bad-mouthed by the cousins who are non-thinking-strong-in-da-troof, because she didn't go much to meetings.
What I did differently: I said I had differences of opinion, and that I couldn't reconcile my conscience with a religion that FORCED people to believe everything they said was truth, particularly when it involved lives. I told her about the vaccinations, and how the JW's were warned in 1921 to stop publishing such bullshit against vaccinations, but they didn't.
I told her I was sick of being lied to, and that I took my time to actually verify with my own eyes the things that the "apostates" said. I told her that all the stuff that she's told about "apostates" is not true, that a lot of them are actually very nice people who just disagree with the JW's.
I asked her to visit freedomofmind.org and to investigate how Mormons, Scientologists, and other cults work.
She said... "think about Jesus"...
and I was like, how so?
"Jesus was persecuted for his beliefs in God, he didn't folow the religious leaders, but the Scriptures, and even being God's Son, he was killed."
"exactly! He was the first 'apostate' of the Jewish religion. Those who believed in him were removed from the synagoge."
"And he followed his heart. That's why he was nice to the prostitutes and even the religious leaders."
"Don't the people who expelled people from the sinagogue remind you of someone?"
"Who"
"Well, who today disfellowships people because of a difference of opinion"?
"well, I have for so many years seen so many injustices here, people have treated us wrongly. lots of stuff. My family knows I am not regular at meetings... I have lost so many years, but I still trust in Jehovah"
"Please, separate "Jehovah" from the JW's!! They are different! I am not saying I stopped believing in God"
"I had problems with people from an assembly. They said vitriolic things... insults... they told me I was a serpent"
"Look, I just consider that this religion which self-proclaims to be "God's channel of communication" is simply not blessed by God"
"I don't care what people think... I serve Jehovah and not men"...
WE HAVE A LIVE BRAIN HERE!! LET'S NOT LOSE IT!!
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
right... those f!ckers... they lie so good don't they? It's enough to make you go crazy... your best friends... everyone you've ever known... think that you're crazy...
It is overwhelming... very scary too... I just tried to tell a friend, super smart guy... he asked me to stop... to stop telling him or else he would cut me off...
I would feel like there's no use... but at least 2 people have gotten away from the grips of the WT thanks to me... because of things I told them. They, however, were Bible studies.
My dad!! He vacilates between believing the JW's and not... (despite me showing him the changed Bible, the vaccination stuff, the organ transplant stuff, that they predicted so many things that never took place, etc... I have tried everything...)
It's a nightmare...
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
Maybe a... "I discovered this on the Insight book!... there is no manuscript of the NT that contains the word "Jehovah"!!
And then show pics of the manuscripts that are available online, like the Codex Sinaiticus... idk
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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...
by ILoveTTATT inso.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.
anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.
i am curious about your ideas about:.
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ILoveTTATT
I have been told that since my cards are in a different city, that neither the elders in either my parent's hall nor the ones in the Spanish hall in my city can do anything about me.... can't DF me. Is that true?
@Endofmysteries:
I would LOVE to be able to just post on my FB all sorts of apostate stuff and have my JW friends choose the friendship or me... If there's any time to test a friendship it is now. Over time, the only friends will be true ones.
I would love to open up and not be anonymous. I know so many things, I want to be involved in stopping as many people as possible to get into the cult... I am translating JWfacts, I am translating so much apostate material...
I would love to have as many friends as possible wake up... if being anonymous helps that, great! If I have to go public or pre-emptively tell them ttatt before they can't talk to me because I am DF'd... I will be anonymous...
But my mom will follow all the JW rules...