Posts by ILoveTTATT

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JWs and National Oaths of Allegiance Expose' by Marvin Shilmer-Please Read

by AndersonsInfo in

the following three paragraphs are part of a startling new essay written by a well-respected poster on jwd.

he spent much time and money to gather proof of duplicity on the part of watch tower leaders.

marvin shilmer (not his real name) has given permission for me to put his entire essay on my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.

ILoveTTATT

I would like to know how Marvin got the info... I need it to help someone who asked how she can verify the signatures and the documents... possibly not easily available right?

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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)

by Apognophos in

is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?

if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.

a couple initial impressions:.

ILoveTTATT

I lost the document... I cannot find it!! Could you resend meanmrmustard??

Thanks!!

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THE REALITY OF REFUSING BLOOD - as it happened

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

over the past couple years i have watched three young jw woman give up thier lives rather than accept blood.

the last was a new mother in her late 20s.

this is her story, as it unfolded on facebook:.

ILoveTTATT

Yet another sacrifice to the JW gods... So incredibly sad.

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This idea might not be new, but does a website like this exist?

by ILoveTTATT in

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friends

i am deeply upset every time there's someone in the news who has died because of the stupid and immoral blood doctrine.. i would like to make a website documenting every single instance of a news report of someone dying from lack of a blood transfusion, and to keep track of it.

that would give some data on the real and current incidence of deaths due to the blood transfusion doctrine.. is there already a website like that?.

.

ILoveTTATT

Hi JYD,

Sorry to hear that. This was recently? Do you know if it went on the news?

I have 83 recorded deaths so far... Most of them completely preventable.

Very sad.

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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

by Witness 007 in

lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

ILoveTTATT

Geez I hope no one gets hurt... this is crazy

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This idea might not be new, but does a website like this exist?

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

i am deeply upset every time there's someone in the news who has died because of the stupid and immoral blood doctrine.. i would like to make a website documenting every single instance of a news report of someone dying from lack of a blood transfusion, and to keep track of it.

that would give some data on the real and current incidence of deaths due to the blood transfusion doctrine.. is there already a website like that?.

.

ILoveTTATT

http://users.adam.com.au/bstett/JwDEATHS75.htm

Here's something to add to the list... it's another list.

Bluesbrother - it depends on the country. Countries such as Australia, UK, USA, Canada, etc have essentially made two categories of patients: underage MUST have the transfusion, adults can decide on their own.

Countries like Brazil, Argentina, Spain, etc... have various levels of this, depending on the judge. Brazil is the other extreme: doctors can do anything they believe will save your life, even against your will, even if you're an adult.

To solve the "what ifs", I think that it is best to include in the table other details. I think that there CAN be cases where the blood was absolutely essential for life... also, to be fair, leaving the cases where the blood was administered and the person still died, or leaving the cases where the blood was withheld and the person lived... If those details are provided in the news story, they should be included somehow.

Maybe it would be good to just have a database of the people who have been involved in making this tough decision, leaving a link, a little bit of details regarding the case, and then allowing people to decide.

Currently, I have over 200 cases, and there are some interesting patterns to be seen. The three most common causes of JW's being in the news because they need blood (and, supposedly, die because of its denial) are:

Cancer - Leukemia being the most common

Accidents/Trauma

Mothers after giving birth

And, of course, the many hundreds of cases where babies have been taken away from their parents, given a BT, and given back to the parents.

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This idea might not be new, but does a website like this exist?

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

i am deeply upset every time there's someone in the news who has died because of the stupid and immoral blood doctrine.. i would like to make a website documenting every single instance of a news report of someone dying from lack of a blood transfusion, and to keep track of it.

that would give some data on the real and current incidence of deaths due to the blood transfusion doctrine.. is there already a website like that?.

.

ILoveTTATT

Hi ABibleStudent,

I would run into copyright problems... these articles are all copyrighted and they have to be purchased for them to be freely available to others. Perhaps I can contact the newspapers and say it's for educational purposes, maybe I can get them for free.

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Are you an "out of the closet" atheist?

by rebel8 in

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friends

i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.

however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.

i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?

ILoveTTATT

In Latin America it's horrible. Atheism is just a no-no. You might come out of the JW's, but afterwards people feel that you MUST have a religion... (preferably Catholic)

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Jesus to run for record 26th term in office !

by Simon in

sources within heaven have revealed to us that jesus h christ intends to run for what would become his 26th term in office as ruler of the galaxy.. since his first term began in 1914 he's been unopposed in office despite, many say, failing to deliver on any of his pre-election promises.

they point to promises of "an end to death and eternal life for all" as being unrealistic given the funding given to healthcare as just one of many examples.. critics say the elections themselves are rigged and in fact no one even gets to case a vote because his father simply declares him the winner.

they believe that have proof that this was planned for some time in what many are calling "biblegate" and point to basic un standardsfor democracy which haven't been lived up to.. many of his supporters thought that his 16th term beginning in 1975 would define his rulership but they lost faith when his party later blamed them for having "unrealistic expectations".. "i did originally support him", says one man who didn't want to be identified for fear of reprisals, "but i'm starting to grow old and now think i'll die without ever seeing any of the changes his promised to enact".. we tried to contact the heaven party to ask when he planned to do any of the things he promised.

ILoveTTATT

Ha!! Good one Simon!! I liked it!!

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Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

by cultBgone in

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friends

i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

ILoveTTATT

I don't think anyone wakes up completely on their own, there's gotta be some information that is given to them for them to wake up. I credit jwfacts for my waking up.