they'll use weak responses like were not infallible to retain their credibility to make it seem like you are being unreasonable and judgmental.
topanga
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'You cant blame God for the mistakes his Org. makes!'
by Hamas ini had a discussion with an 'associate' i used to know back in my meeting days last night.
he really did show what it means to be a brainwashed victim of the watchtower.
i told him about false prophecies, and how the wt claims to be a true prophet of god.
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6-15-2003 WT. Says That JW's Would Not Bribe Officials!!!
by minimus inpage 32 shows the example of a young woman in poland who had to make the decision to either follow the simple custom of bribing the teachers with money or gifts to get better grades or to follow the bible and realize that god disapproves of any bribery.
she said," i understood how easy it is to succumb to peer pressure.
i thought it over and since then never shared in this custom again.
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topanga
Don't they always say make friends for yourselves by means of the unrighteous riches?
They've been granted political favors for years.
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We are not a cult!
by Nosferatu in"we are not a cult!".
yeah, we've heard this one before.
how did/do the jws back up this statement?
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topanga
they seem more like a not for profit organization sort of buisness that instead of choosing the arts or humanitarian efforts they chose religion as their MO. Free furniture free computers and software the legal right to recruit volunteers, tax exemption free building spaces etc and many other perks.
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if a married bethel elder calls you for sex what would you do if stalked?
by topanga incalls me on the phone, he knows me from sitting in on my studies.
others notice his behavior but nothing has been done.
the other day i saw him in my movie theatre staring at me smiling.
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topanga
Some people like to do a lot of studying.
You're a newbie study, and you use terms like:
He knew many things himself for a bethelite.
Excuse my cynacism............but you're busted !
I know that most JW's are seriously stupid and gullable people, but the rest of us in the world do not make a habit of rejecting knowledge.
Yes i do read alot, i love to read, anything or topic that is well written. I have seen how destructive messing with a persons spiritual beliefs can be and how it can destroy someone. And thanks to this board and many others i understand the mental and emotional changes and sadness my mother is going through.
you're damned right i study alot. I try to understand how things like this can legally happen in america, just because its a religious entity. How people can be so stupid as to follow them and never ask questions. I read all things, and my friends come from other religious backgrounds so i listen to them as well. you should understand why i would want to search these other books, i want to know if there is any such thing as god or was it made up just to control people.
As I've mentioned before in other topics my mother was a JW, so i know a thing or two about them and have seen alot of devious behavior first hand.
She let me grow up as a normal person and told me to choose for myself.
Sometimes i think JW's and WT own this website and the other boards. Wouldn't you people have to pay them for use of the WT logos
and direct literature Quotations? Big Asshole!!! You pissed me off!!!
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DO JW'S REALLY LIVE FOREVER? HOW CAN U BELIEVE THIS?
by topanga ini just think they wonder how far under their power you are.
i was told i don't have to worry about death and old age anymore but when i look around jw's were dropping like flies, old age sickness, accidents blood issue etc.
thats just a straight out lie.
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topanga
I JUST THINK THEY WONDER HOW FAR UNDER THEIR POWER YOU ARE. I WAS TOLD I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DEATH AND OLD AGE ANYMORE BUT WHEN I LOOK AROUND JW'S WERE DROPPING LIKE FLIES, OLD AGE SICKNESS, ACCIDENTS BLOOD ISSUE ETC. THATS JUST A STRAIGHT OUT LIE. WHAT SAY YOU ON THIS MATTER?
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Anyone been insulted by JW after being df'd or Da'd?
by avishai ini've had people point, make comments under their breath, give me dirty looks, after i was declared "bad association"(because even though i still was going in service, i refused to turn in a timecard.
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topanga
usually its because of jealousy, i think they envy that you no longer have to go door to door or stand around street corners wearing a suit in 90
degree weather. you dont have to try and place literature evertime you conversate with normal people. you no longer have to bs and lie and
dupe people and be afraid of everything and avoid everthing and sneak around etc. you are free of it and you can do whatever you want with no
one spying on you or tattling. when they yell they are just jealous of you. dont even turn your head to see whos saying it. know that its
someone mentally challenged.
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"Jehovah's Witnesses Really Don't Love People, Do They?"
by minimus inthis was a comment that was made to me when i expressed that witnesses shun or disfellowship people and refuse to have any normal contact with them, or that they "mark" them and give a public speech about ones that even date a non-jehovah's witness.
after the statement was made, i stated that witnesses were more interested in numbers such as how many knocked on doors or went to a meeting......................it is a sad but true commentary.
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topanga
after stopping a study elders and other witnesses told me god was going to kill me for leaving. I said well not today.
one minute they were so nice then they were sneering and going down lists of all the fun things im allowing to get between me and god.
i said i will continue to study the bible just not with you. im not leaving god im just leaving you. hey were like he's gonna kill you with all the rest t armageddon.
i said no he wont ,i know you want him to but he wont.
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Madonna is a dumb ass.
by LDH inok, just catching a little snippet of matt lauer's interview of madonna right now.
a few things come to mind.drop the fake ass british accentamerica is not interested in a "spiritual" pop starkaballah is just another religion, regardless of your argument that it is not.
(doesn't everyone say that their religion is not a "religion" but the "truth.
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topanga
i think it is stupid to look at any celebrity or pop icon as a role model thats just retarded.
they are in the public spotlight for the money they create a fake persona, life style ,creed etc for the money.
it is not their responsibility to be a role model for anyones child. there are alot stars that however choose to be role models
but remember at some point people have differing opinions about what is and is not acceptable lifestyle for a role model.
people forget at some point you have to teach children to be their own person and these public role models have a right to be themselves good and bad. you cannot follow each and every single thing someone does and clone your life after it.
i love madonna and as long as she lives she will be a star and taken care of by the public. We grew up with her and watched her go from village groupie to wwstardom.
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if a married bethel elder calls you for sex what would you do if stalked?
by topanga incalls me on the phone, he knows me from sitting in on my studies.
others notice his behavior but nothing has been done.
the other day i saw him in my movie theatre staring at me smiling.
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topanga
i dont want to have sex with him. there are literaly hundreds of young beautiful strapping men single men that i could fornicate with if thats what i wanted but it was really strange for him to do that. so far ive been peering around the corners before i turn them and looking around everywhere i go. i mentioned this to a male friend of mine who wanted to know where to find the bastard as he put it. so i think if he comes around again or is at my study my friend will come along from now on and i will have him talk to this brother on the spot.
perhaps i should just study with another religion, or take a course in a university.
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if a married bethel elder calls you for sex what would you do if stalked?
by topanga incalls me on the phone, he knows me from sitting in on my studies.
others notice his behavior but nothing has been done.
the other day i saw him in my movie theatre staring at me smiling.
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topanga
i skipped my study last week. no im not studying with him i study with two sisters but some times one cannot make it.
he was invited a few times and we were talking about the world and relationships and immorality. I got the feeling they were trying to find out what type i am if iam active sexually, clean or what. So of course i don't want to look immoral so i say no i don't sleep around i find guys my age are stupid and don't care about relationships just sex. I told them i d prefer older men meaning more mature but this guy has to be in his late fifties.
when he comes to the studies he is enthusiastic, very attentive, sort of emotional and just has an exciting way of talking about the bible stories. so obviously he knows where i live and regulary witnesses in my neighborhood i think.
He did call me which was strange i try to think what the hell did i say or do to make him think i was so loose and immoral.
on the study we talked in depth about all the different types of people have different preferences that are immoral acts or considered fornication.
i think i said too much. i know a great deal about what is in the world because i read and i know people that are living and working in the sex world. i guess i never thought he would be tempted being who he is. He knew many things himself for a bethelite.