Every day another member suddenly died their illness was kept secret or it was just old age or a car accident etc i never saw anybody's flesh growing fresher than youth they were steadily growing old as is everyone else on the planet i knew that was a BIG LIE.
topanga
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ALL JWs Are To Be Evangelizers---Per The New Watchtower
by minimus ini visited my mother yesterday and asked her if she had the latest magazines.
i believe the march 15th's lead study article is the ne that states that all jws are supposed to be evangelizers.
before my mother and i discussed the article, i asked her if all jws were supposed to be evangelizers.
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topanga
In order to get grant money or funding from the government for the 'work of the ministry'
watchtower has to make sure each person in active in the field regardless of experience with the bible.
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It is true that some elders have engaged in......
by badboy in.
wife swapping,child molestion, adultery.... i believe that a wt article once said the above.. know any instances of the above among elders?
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topanga
Yes, it is freely practiced and of course kept quiet. There are all types of people in the organization. This is tolerated as long as it is consensual and kept quiet. The witnesses are divided in to those that do, those that don't, those that do it all.
People have differing sexual backgrounds, needs, desires and practices, watchtower realizes that and the more down to earth realistic types accept this while the extremist staunch fanatics don't.
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More decption in Feb 1 WT
by why144000 inhow is this for deceptive writing.
in the feb 1 2004 watchtower under the title 'how can you satisfy your spiritual needs' the artice gives three examples of professional people who have become witnesses, a doctor, a lawyer and an architect.
all come complete with two pictures each.
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topanga
Seen so many homeless jehovah witnesses who did not go to college and chose to pioneer or persue ever elusive bethel service. Were shunned and marked by the organization when asked for financial help or temporary housing at one of wt's many locations and apts in nyc.
Bethel elders said we help whoever we like.
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What is the appeal of Watchtower Farm and Patterson?
by Never Was ina little background on me.
i have never been a jw or had any desire to be one.
i definitely have no desire to join.
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topanga
I was at lunch in the bethel dining room, and a sister at a nearby table got sick and passed out right in the midle of lunch.
NO one got up to help no one rushed to her aide they didn't miss a beat shoveling food in to their mouths.
Getting their meal was more important. The love was not there that day. it was exactly like watching zombies
But do you get it? being conditioned to ignore a cry for help being desensitized
they act the same way when a fellow christian needs help they just sit there and ignore it.
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The Elder Trap.
by Englishman in(i posted this on the kh thread, but that thread has descended into a squabble.
i think it's worth a thread of it's own).. "anyone who thinks that this place is similar to a kingdom hall with elders in control has no clue as to how the commercial world operates.
anyone who thinks that this place is like a kingdom hall controlled by persons with elder-like tendencies is probably going to struggle to hold down a job, make friends other than with those who feel the same way, and will always be struggling against the tide.
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topanga
Are elders trained or sent to college to know how to counsel anyone depressed or who needs practical help. people who loose jobs become homeless or sick.Or are they just going through the motions to shut you up?
emotion has nothing to do with it after 2 years or more you start to catch on things are not kosher in wt.
you know what it is, its just doing my part in exposing the lies i was shocked as hell to see that people are so gullible just because its written in a wt publication or its organizational proceedure
doesn't mean anybodys following it. ive been in congregations where entire groups of elders from two different congregations were caught stealing, fornicating, lying etc. They were stealing kingdom funds and then fighting in loud voices after meetings in elder meetings over who got more than anyone else.
its kind of like wt books say witnesses dont practice fornication, yes they do when dating its up to the couple to keep it chaste or not been to brooklyn bethel congregation and seen it several times shocked the hell out of me. No one was disfellowshiped.
same way they tell us pioneers don't keep the money from the field i went to pioneer meetings they were told to keep the money. is that allowwed in the org or was it just this congregation?
some people just don't want to face reality. but sooner or later you will have to because the longer you remain the more you uncover its unavoidable.
no one wanted to believe more than i did. But i went to college, visited scientology centers out of curiosity and found out that some of jehovahs witnesses freely go and have been trained to run an organization, and how to do group processing there. The set up is exactly the same too.
every year elders are imprisoned for stealing, extortion , rape , molestation etc its in the news papers and wt and year books report as well.
and we always read jw's dont do those things because they are dedicated to god how dumn can a person be if it happens every year how can you believe thoses statements?
A locusts duty.
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info on why JWs can't go into other churches
by banco6 ini would like to know why jws can't enter another church,for funerals or anything?
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topanga
because you will find out they have been affiliated with many of them secretly, like the UN active membership.
because you'll find out that what wt does is exactly the same as far as immorality money and the business side of religion.
the same reason they discouraged college , they have something to hide from you.
once you figure out the religious system in america you wont be such a sucker and easily fooled anymore.
in the bible peter and jesus often spent time with persons of other faiths to teach them or sometimes even for fellowship.
A visit to scientology center. who trained many jehovah witnesses in how to run an organization and group processing techniques is eye opening.
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Federal Credit Union--Partner Groups--Jehovah's Witnesses!
by Voyager ingo here and scroll down and look for member groups that start with the letter (m).
look for (mountain side congregation of jehovah's witnesses).. http://www.members1st.org/partnergroups.asp .
go here and look for partner groups that start with the letter (k).
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topanga
Do you think that they can use their conncetions within these unions to give credit to favorites and deny others?
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The Elder Trap.
by Englishman in(i posted this on the kh thread, but that thread has descended into a squabble.
i think it's worth a thread of it's own).. "anyone who thinks that this place is similar to a kingdom hall with elders in control has no clue as to how the commercial world operates.
anyone who thinks that this place is like a kingdom hall controlled by persons with elder-like tendencies is probably going to struggle to hold down a job, make friends other than with those who feel the same way, and will always be struggling against the tide.
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topanga
Watchtower identifies it self as a religious not for profit. As such they have the right to recruit volunteers fund raise get free or discounted property and office space and equipment and many other perks. They are selling you a religious lifestyle much like tony roberts, or scientology. They don't necessarily believe or follow any of the crap they are trained to teach you, although some of them become drunk on their own lies and are beginning to choke on them. They are trained to go get the money.
The elders are trained to open up money centers or kingdom halls world wide. These money centers or kingdom halls operate alot like Amway, the money that comes in to the organisation is paid out by the trickle down method. In these centers people are taught to recruit and bring in more money. The elders get to divide up the money in each congregation and pocket some if not all of it. I've heard elders arguing over who gets the lions share. Local elders build additions on to houses and drive expensive automobiles, bethel elders wear $500.00 rain coats, stash it in a bank or who knows.
It's a good way to get rich tax free. Nothing more.
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if a married bethel elder calls you for sex what would you do if stalked?
by topanga incalls me on the phone, he knows me from sitting in on my studies.
others notice his behavior but nothing has been done.
the other day i saw him in my movie theatre staring at me smiling.
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topanga
you are probably one in a million jw dogs that regularly get away things all the time and know all the ropes.
If there are better brothers in line good!
That sick bastard and his wife have been caught doing alot worse than that.
The proof is coming, there are alot of married bethel elders who participate in molestation rapes stalking phone harrassment etc etc and get away with it for years.
They wont get away with it anymore than those catholic priest who are receiving due recompense for acts long hidden in the past.