did watchtower close its doors to people running off the bridge in to brooklyn. even to other witness who did not have bethel id's? is that true?
topanga
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bethel shuts everyone out 9/11
by topanga indid watchtower close its doors to people running off the bridge in to brooklyn.
even to other witness who did not have bethel id's?
is that true?
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Major WTS Prophecy goes down to defeat !!!
by Amazing inmany here may recall that the watchtower society has published much material on the prophetic role of the united nations ... specifically, the united nations is the scarlet colored wild beast, the "image" of the worldly 7 headed wild political beast ... it would be given life by the two-horned dual world power of britain and america, the "lamb-like beast spoken of in revelation ... this "image" beast would be given power to rule one prophetic hour over the nations as they subordinate their national sovereignty to it ... and so on ...
then ... after the creation of the united nations in 1945 in san francisco the wts interpreted revelation regarding the demise of the old league of nations to apply to a statement in revelation that this "image" beast would be revived in the form of the united nations ... seemingly, the wts was on to something ... and for the next 45 years (until about 1990) the watchtower published anything and everything they could to make their interpretation stick with respect to how deep in the time of the end they believed we were living in ... then, about 1990, the watchtower society joined the un as a member ngo ... a significant departure from their previous stand on political neutrality ... and ... hatred of satan's old system of things ... certainly, since we are nearly 90 years into the last days of this wicked system we would expect the un to be in control or at least taking the lead ...
so, now ... where do we stand as of march 19th, 2003?
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topanga
wow you guys are weally steamed. wed witing ewery where. kepitol letters its like a shouting match.
Please,... what do you all say regarding watchtowers membership with the wild beast? the un is it?
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If You Could Explain To A Witness WHY They Are Wrong, Would You Want To?
by minimus inand would you personally, be able to make a clear explanation as to why the witnesses are so wrong??
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topanga
most of them know that already.they choose to serve jehovah the organization not jehovah the god of heaven. They don't want to start over somewhere else and they see what happens to thse who leave at first , you knoww the depressions and all . They stay out of lonliness, fear or to move up in to higher positions in the organization and score some free flights on jw airlines
or for whatever perks are open to them. Alot of them cannot take the shunning, witnesses harrass them on the job get them fired , blackmail them try to ruin any relationships they have in order to impose a sort of death on them social death spiritual death which leads to isolations and possible suicide or mental problems. They like to think they have the power and some of them are viciously abusing it.
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should shunning be reversed?
by kls init is so sad when i read threads of persons finding their in a cult, and want out .problem ,their family will shun them and ignore there own children and close family members.what if things were reversed?
what if the person leaving this cult shunned their loved ones, letting them know they are being brainwashed and you don't want their sick beliefs being pushed on them all over again.
i do believe cult members enjoy shunning , it makes them feel superior and they feel they are taking a strong stand just like the gb says to do .give them a taste of what they dish out ,shun the jw, if they won't convert to using their own mind, shun them with out guilt .
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topanga
sometimes peple who are jealous and insecure use shunning to pick on someone that intimidates them.
you can destroy a persons life depending on how intense it is is. if the whole congregation gangs up on someone because they like to feel superior god help them.
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Major WTS Prophecy goes down to defeat !!!
by Amazing inmany here may recall that the watchtower society has published much material on the prophetic role of the united nations ... specifically, the united nations is the scarlet colored wild beast, the "image" of the worldly 7 headed wild political beast ... it would be given life by the two-horned dual world power of britain and america, the "lamb-like beast spoken of in revelation ... this "image" beast would be given power to rule one prophetic hour over the nations as they subordinate their national sovereignty to it ... and so on ...
then ... after the creation of the united nations in 1945 in san francisco the wts interpreted revelation regarding the demise of the old league of nations to apply to a statement in revelation that this "image" beast would be revived in the form of the united nations ... seemingly, the wts was on to something ... and for the next 45 years (until about 1990) the watchtower published anything and everything they could to make their interpretation stick with respect to how deep in the time of the end they believed we were living in ... then, about 1990, the watchtower society joined the un as a member ngo ... a significant departure from their previous stand on political neutrality ... and ... hatred of satan's old system of things ... certainly, since we are nearly 90 years into the last days of this wicked system we would expect the un to be in control or at least taking the lead ...
so, now ... where do we stand as of march 19th, 2003?
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topanga
if all of that is true then WL Barry and Ciro Aulicino and well Watchtower itself are in deep fertilizer for ten years of harlotry with their UN membership, what did prophecy say about those having membership?
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I need to ask a question...
by nightwarrior inafter reading flowers posting about her brother, it really got me thinking (a dangerous occupation with me) lol, what is it about the jws, that when you are in the org, you feel that you are in the'right religion', and then wham, something happens, to make you realise that things are not so rosey as you were first led to believe.. so my point is.. when you leave the 'org' you feel such great relief, as if a burden has been lifted from your shoulders, and that you feel that at long last (as in my case) you can really develop a good relationship with our creator... but, if it were the 'true religion' surely we would feel downhearted and oppressed in leaving, and really we would not want to leave at all, as all things would be made clear to us, and we would feel happy again, but that is not the case.. i hope that this makes sense.
as at the moment my mother and sisters are still not speaking to me, it has now been a month, and the tatic i know, is that by (hopefully) ignoring me, i will come to my senses and return to the fold, and maybe even leave my sweet talking evil slave class husband!!
(yeah right).
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topanga
i've seen married men quite literally physically chasing young sisters around the hall in front of their long suffering wives.
its strange but when you stay focused on scripture you become quite certain they are not "it" so don't feel guilty. Remember jesus said you would not find him in temples or houses constructed by men, so you are not bound by any organization. You are a free person in christ and they will be jealous of your freedom and attack you because they are brainwashed and stuck in what they themselves call a scam. All I've heard since i started studying is complaining from bethelites and witnesses saying they know they don't have the truth. It's confusing but im starting to see them as more of a corporate entity than anything else.
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DreamCatcher
by SheilaM inthunder and i saw dreamcatcher based on the book of the same name by stephen king.
i screamed at least three times, it stayed true to the novel and the actors were amazing.
i loved how they made jonsey's office in his mind, it was just as i had imagined it.
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topanga
i love steven king i cant wait to see it.
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In Case You Have Ears to Hear... But Have Not Yet Heard...
by AGuest in(simon, please forgive me... and if you can, accommodate me... as i have not yet surpassed my new post "limit" for this day.
to the household of god, israel, that is on jw.com, and all those who 'go with' them:
may you have peace!
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topanga
whaddya mean scoob?
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irreverent introduction
by Irreverent ini am irreverent.
i am new to this discussion board, but you may know my wife; she is blondie.
i am looking forward to getting to know many of you.
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topanga
oye vey was that lousy! well i've made worse how are ya? blondie seems kool.
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In Case You Have Ears to Hear... But Have Not Yet Heard...
by AGuest in(simon, please forgive me... and if you can, accommodate me... as i have not yet surpassed my new post "limit" for this day.
to the household of god, israel, that is on jw.com, and all those who 'go with' them:
may you have peace!
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topanga
thank you, i have closed myself off to feeling the emotion that comes with such a beautiful message.
there has been a sort of silent blackness in my veins since i was told no heaven for you! heaven is my hope.
You have made me feel that i wasn't wrong for holding on to the promise of heaven.