Great thread!
KiddingMe
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I'am in the Penalty Box! I asked the Circuit Overseer "Who Donates Blood For Jehovah's Witnesses Blood Fragments".
by AuntConnie intold my husband to put a muzzle on my mouth over the blood dogma.
we all were driving around in field service when the topic of "which fragments would you take if you were in a car accident or cut yourself badly".
said his choice is a personal one, another sister with chronic health problems said she had no problem with the governing body's new light on taking various fragments.
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Creating the appearance of transparency to mitigate the appearance of impropriety
by NeverKnew inso, as a non-jw, one of the queries i leverage after taking them to realities within their literature is, "why do the 'worldlies' know this stuff about your religion and you don't?
why didn't they explain the evolution of your doctrines?
" ...and "who really is the faithful and discreet slave and how is the information transmitted again?
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KiddingMe
I'm wondering if this "appearance of transparency" trick is really a preemptive attempt to thwart the attacks of the evil Internet god (clearly ruled by Satan).
NeverKnew- I think you are right on here. I think with the spread of information on the internet, there's a need to hurry and "adjust" matters before majority of JWs catch on to what's out there about the org. That way it appears to come from "new light"-instead of the org being exposed by various outside sources.
I was thinking along the same lines. It couldn't be by coincidence that there has been so much focus at the assemblies and conventions about association with Df'd/Da'd family members; Apostates and their use of the internet, TV and personal letters; bad association in general; preparing the heart for trials ahead; resisting doubt; independent thinkers; obey the org at all cost, etc.
This way all basis are covered when "adjustments" are made to "old truths". There's no room to question, doubt, or listen to apostates that put bought to light the organizations flaws.
It's pretty slick if you don't know TTATT because if or when you encounter any such things they've focused on, you view it as, oh thank Jah for the "proper food at the proper time" how loving! Meanwhile the org has known what was coming down the pipeline all along.
I wonder if it could backfire on a larger scale? Right before I started to learn TTATT there was a talk about apostates at an assembly, at first I didn't give it much weight as I didn't know of any, or much about them. I'd just heard stories of them back in the day picketing in front of the KH. But after so much focus at this assembly, I became curious just what's going on that there's is a need to focus on apostates? Well here I am learning TTATT and posting on an apostate site.
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I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ inive been around this board for quite awhile.
it has helped immensely.
lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
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KiddingMe
Maybe in the video, G'ma can reference JW.org, and how glad she was to see under FAQ "Do You Shun Former Members of Your Religion?" that the JWs don't shun family members and that as long as there is no religious ties the normal family affections and dealings continue.
"What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue."
Maybe this will spark something in your daughter...maybe it will cause her to at least notice how deceiving the WT is to public about their shunning policy. The site doesn't mention as they have in the recent conventions that this only applies to persons living within the same household.
So G'ma being away from the JW for so long could be very delighted in the answers on JW.org...that may open a door for your daughter to at least clarify her current behavior to grandma.
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I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ inive been around this board for quite awhile.
it has helped immensely.
lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
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KiddingMe
Bonezz, my response was before seeing yours to Gingerbread--however, I still don't see what benefit could come from this. This "persecution" may even contribute to their next part on the assembly.
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I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ inive been around this board for quite awhile.
it has helped immensely.
lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
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KiddingMe
I agree with gingerbread and others...maybe you can take another route to try to reach your daughter. It's the religion you hate, your daughter is the one that will be hurt by addressing this publicly. It plays right into the hands of the WT and the picture they paint of exJWs. It may confirm in her mind that her actions in the store were appropriate but taking a different approach may open her up.
Maybe video G'ma and send to your daughter directly via email or postal mail. It can't hurt to exhaust all non public remedies first.
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Apostles were first governing body????
by NeverKnew inand paul was not a part of the governing body????
am i hearing this correctly or are these people making things up?.
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KiddingMe
I am also confused about the current understanding. I think it's suppose to be as "hoser" described, but the article also referred to the apostles as "Spirit-Anointed Christians"...so wouldn't that designate them as the FDS? Or is there suppose to be a difference in the usage of the word "anointed" in "spirit-anointed Christians" back then compared to the present day reference to the "anointed"?
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Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!
by Atlantis inthis file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.
the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.
they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.
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KiddingMe
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Public Talk Outline No. 187 (2014 special talk)
by pixel inyou read it here first:.
why would a loving god permit wickedness?.
note to the speaker:.
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KiddingMe
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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KiddingMe
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Letter to BOE re: baptism of my minor children
by Michelle365 inok i posted about a month ago asking for advice on writing a letter to my former congregation regarding my children.
my ex husband still goes to our old hall and although we have joint custody he is raising them to be good little jws on his time.
i understand that in your organization age is not a determining factor in whether or not a person can get baptized, however as the young people ask book points out:
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KiddingMe
Great letter! Marked