@ tec
do you follow any holy texts?
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
@ tec
do you follow any holy texts?
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
well if he's impotent, at least he wouldn't pork ya
it isn't much, only a small piece on page 23 of sunday's sun newspaper .
for our colonial cousins the sun is a highbrow , well respected national daily newspaper , well national daily anyway .
on sunday it printed a small article about what it describes as a jehovah's witness paedophile whose sex crimes had been hushed up by his church .
if only they would have written that article next to page 3
i'd particularly like to stick it to the woman who gave birth to me by sending a da letter to her congregation, though admittedly i wasn't part of hers when i stopped going.. say i were to send the letter to her cult hall, would the letter be read during the announcement?
how does that work?.
oh well. kinda disappointing. i doubt anyone but a few people would even remember who i was over at the one i was last in. i was barely there as it was.
then again, the woman who gave birth to me does have some friends over there...perhaps that would mortify her to some extent...
i'd particularly like to stick it to the woman who gave birth to me by sending a da letter to her congregation, though admittedly i wasn't part of hers when i stopped going.. say i were to send the letter to her cult hall, would the letter be read during the announcement?
how does that work?.
i'd particularly like to stick it to the woman who gave birth to me by sending a da letter to her congregation, though admittedly i wasn't part of hers when i stopped going.
say i were to send the letter to her cult hall, would the letter be read during the announcement? how does that work?
now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.
spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.
watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.
i'll admit, even as a dub, i couldn't imagine paradise forever with no conflict. being stuck with a bunch of jws always seemed rather boring and debauchery always looked like a ton of fun.
now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.
spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.
watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.
what i could never understamd/never got a clear answer about from those who believe and say they can "hear" god/christ is...
why you and not everyone?
seems to me that the typical response is that you have to want to hear, or some other response that boils down to being open or having a particular "heart condition"
that implies that i, and many others, have not earnestly sought out god...which is utter and complete bs.
these people who "hear god" were not there when i used to pour my heart out seeking answers and hoping to confirm that my sacrafices weren't in vain.
what about people risking life and limb to escape their war-torn countries? are they not "earnestly seeking out god" when they pray for safety..only to have it escape them?
how about the families seeking and praying for just a little bit of water and bread to hunger and thirst in drought and famine stricken countries?
frankly, for those who thank god after striking it rich with a lotto ticket, or those athletes who somehow believe that god is the one who blessed them with the winning run, catch, throw, whatever...if THAT is god's priorities, then god knows exactly where to stick it.
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what time magazine expose? is it available anywhere?
when we awaken from the indoctrinated coma of the watchtower corporation and starts to see all the lies and half truths one naturally wonders: does the governing body really believe all the stuff that they have printed in their publication?
are they so indoctrinated that they too are victims of the falsehood that the watchtower prints?
and now with the grandeous claims that the governing body a lone are the faithful and discreet slave of god doing his will do they really beleive such grandeous bullshit?
i believe they know what they're doing, 607 is enough to wake up almost any brainwashed jdub. the question i have is why?
what do they get out of this?
riches? i don't see it. i mean...they still gotta live in bethel, it's not like they can really retire to the carribbean with a stuffed 401k or anything.
can't be the women. well it could, or could it? i was never a bethelite, but that's pretty balsy if they can pull that off in "god's kingdom on earth"
fame? pshhhhh famous to approximately 2 million cult members...i say 2 because i seriously doubt all 7 know who these people are from a hole in their rear. ok, i never did...
so what do they get except, living at bethel, with no real money, and no real wealth to blow?
i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.
i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?
also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!
good for you!
as was mentioned, start planning NOW for your life once you turn 18.
save/start looking toward university and what you'd like to study.
build up a network of friends outside the jws. you're gonna need some.
here's a site i like for learning about the nuttiness of the jws: