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Red Letter Day

by Carmel in

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just thought i'd share a little diddy with ya'll!

today i put a wrap on my first dvd production.

just a short 14 minute presentation on some fisheries projects i've been involved in up in alaska.

This is about out beloved Dansk

by mouthy in

how sorry i was to hear from dansk-he is going through a very difficult time.. i would like all prayers, thoughts, please keep this in mind ____ for me!!!!.

the sad news he has cancer.it is lymphoma!!!

they are waiting on the results of the biopsy before determining treatment..... he didnt want me to say anything at first- as he feels you all have your own problems & he didnt want to upset anyone-because he says "they are dear friends".

Mystery

Ian -

I am glad you are feeling better. And i want to thank you again for taking the time to share with me regarding my family and my soon to be first grandchild.

I wish you peacefullness and a full recovery.

Take Care,

Deborah (Mystery)

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

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i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

Geoff -

Goodnight.

A servant of Jehovah needs to be a good listener. This is one of the qualities, IMHO, that you need to practice on.

I will not acknowlege any more of your comments.

May you have peace and security,

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

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i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

Gdt ? I guess in Australia shunning is not as severe as it is in the congregation I grew up in.

I also assume that being part of a non-JW apostate website in not as evil as it is in the US. Being a circuit overseer I would have believed that you would follow the society?s rules and regulations to the letter. Maybe Australian JW?s simply aren?t as stringent as the dear brothers and sisters are over here.

If you would like a topic I suggest you post a new one with the subject that you have in mind.

Mine is regarding my up and coming grandchild and my mom and sister not being part of his/her life due to the shunning of JW?s.

And as far as worrying about it; right now i am only worried about which color Jordan's to buy - pink or blue.

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ONE FLAW IN WOMEN

by Mystery in

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one flaw in women

an angel appeared and said, "why are you spending so much time on this one?

and the lord answered, "have you seen my spec sheet on her?

Mystery

Alright Englishman - are you saying that the women in your life aren't as stated???? huh.... I will let you tell them that all they are worth is a rib.

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ONE FLAW IN WOMEN

by Mystery in

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one flaw in women

an angel appeared and said, "why are you spending so much time on this one?

and the lord answered, "have you seen my spec sheet on her?

Mystery

ONE FLAW IN WOMEN By the time the Lord made woman, alt he was into his sixth day of working overtime.
An angel alt appeared and said, "Why are you spending so much time on this one?" And the Lord answered, "Have you seen my spec sheet on her? She has to be completely washable, but not plastic, have over 200 movable parts, all replaceable and able to run on diet coke alt and leftovers, have a lap that can hold four children alt at one time, have a kiss alt that can cure anything from a scraped knee to a broken heart alt -and she will do everything with only two hands." alt alt The angel was astounded at the requirements. "Only two hands!? No way! And that's just on the standard model? That's too much work for one day. Wait until tomorrow to finish." But I won't," the Lord protested. "I am so close to finishing this creation that is so close to my own heart. alt She already heals herself when she is sick AND can work 18 hour days." The angel moved closer and touched the woman. "But you have made her so soft, Lord." "She is soft," the Lord agreed, "but I have also made her tough. You have no idea what she can endure or accomplish." "Will she be able to think?", asked the angel. The Lord replied, "Not only will she be able to think, she will be able to reason and negotiate." The angel then noticed something, and reaching out, touched the woman's cheek. "Oops, it looks like you have a leak in this model. alt I told you that you were trying to put too much into this one." "That's not a leak," the Lord corrected, "that's a tear!" "What's the tear for?" the angel asked. The Lord said, "The tear is her way of expressing her joy, her sorrow, her pain, her disappointment, her love, her loneliness, her grief and her pride." The angel was impressed. "You are a genius, Lord. You thought of everything! Woman is truly amazing." And she is! Women have strengths that amaze men. They bear hardships and they carry burdens, but they hold happiness, alt love alt and joy. alt They smile alt when they want to scream. alt They sing when they want to cry.They cry when they are happy and laugh when they are nervous. They fight for what they believe in. They stand up to injustice.They don't take "no" for an answer when they believe there is a better solution. They go without so their family alt can have. They go to the doctor alt with a frightened friend.They love unconditionally. They cry when their children alt excel and cheer when their friends get awards.They are happy when they hear about a birth alt or a wedding. alt Their hearts break when a friend dies.They grieve at the loss of a family member, alt yet they are strong when they think there is no strength left.They know that a hug alt and a kiss can heal a broken heart. Women come in all shapes, sizes and colors. They'll drive, fly, walk, run or e-mail you to show how much they care about you. The heart of a woman is what makes the world alt keep turning. They bring joy, hope and love.They have compassion and ideals. They give moral support to their family and friends. Women have vital things to say and everything to give. HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ONE FLAW IN WOMEN, IT IS THAT THEY FORGET THEIR WORTH. I THINK THAT YOU ARE SPECIAL AND JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU!!! Not to leave out the men "you are special too".

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

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friends

i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

Thank you for your kindness geoff. The congregation I attended and was baptized in take disfellowshipment very seriously. I know that my family will turn their back on me. It is their choice. They will be the ones missing out on the new addition to our household. I to was a witness. I preached with zeal. Then I watched the shunning. When I was with my family I likewise shunned the disfellwoshipped; when I was alone I talked with them. It absolutely broke my heart when my ?brother? or ?sister? broke down due to the actions they were receiving from their ?brothers? and ?sisters?. They had simply made a mistake, but instead of being taken in and given a hug they had back turned on them. I could never agree with that ?law?; even when I was zealously proclaiming, as I thought then, the truth.

I will do as you suggest and let things fall where they may. I have something to ask of you, I want you to look around you, at those that are Baptist, Methodist, Catholic and see if you notice as well that there are nice, kind, helpful, endearing, loving, generous, kind etc etc spirited people and actions of so many beautiful people these people that the brothers say will be killed in Armageddon. Do you really feel, as the organization does, that the beautiful child that you see the next time you go into a store is going to be killed by God because she isn?t a witness? I would like for you to truly think of these things, if only for a minute. When you are at work or at the store or at the park or going out to dinner you are simply waiting on a everyone around you to die so that you and your brothers can live in their perfect paradise. If you sincerely think about it, it is a pretty sad situation.

When you get to your perfect paradise I hope for a fleeting second that you remember this email; I will be dead, my son will be dead and my grandchild will be dead. But this is the way your God is?

I am sure that i will post again after telling my family. I will have people like Dansk, outoftheorg, Granny Linda and kls to remind me that my family made their choice. Mine is to care for my immediate family and my up and coming grandchild.

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

jw
friends

i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

Granny Linda

It sounds like you have a wonderful real family right there with you. I hope after you left you were able to get the medical help you needed.

We go through all sorts of emotions when we find out that our baby is having a baby. I thought i had went thru it all trying to find my son help. Well, he has topped it again! I am over the initial shock. I gonna be a Granny!

I hope the end, or it is the beginning, to my story turns out as happy as yours is now. I had my wonderful real family right here beside me all along.

BTW - It is going to be a girl; i know because it is the only way he can have double the trouble that he caused me. I deserve some revenge right?

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

jw
friends

i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

Disfellowshipping? Their loss! Always remember that. You don't need them and there are plenty of really wonderful people here. I know, it can seem lonely at times - but you've enough to be getting on with without having to worry about all the garbage that could be fired your way.

Dansk you are right about it being their loss. My mom won?t share in the life of her great grandchild, her first great grand child, due to a man?s organization that she has committed her life to. She is choosing them over us. It doesn?t upset me as much as it used to. My husband?s family, all 7 of them, will more than compensate for the attention of our first grandchild!

Dansk how are you doing? I believe if anyone can recover that it will be you! You are sincere and heartfelt and one on this board that I really enjoy hearing your comments.

Since you describe your parents behavior as happening for several years, it is doubtful they will ever change, in how they deal with you.

It is your life. If you are tired of doing the dance to please them, let the light shine into your life and be the real you.

Outofthe org you are right as well. I am tired of dancing and as so many others, leading a double life due to them. My father passed away (an elder) in 2000; I was basically shunned at his funeral by my ?old friends?. My mom and sister and brother in law (MS) are the ones that a judging me now. I felt sorry for my mom because we lost my brother in ?95 (literally). I didn?t want her to lose a daughter as well. But this time it is by her choice; not due to something we couldn?t control.

do not let them feel you are ashamed of your son by hiding the truth. Early congratulations Gram-ma.

KLS ? I have enough judgmental people in the small community that I live in to try to make me feel ashamed. I had 2 choices to make when I found out; hold my head down or hold it up. I chose up. Several people have stuck their noses up at me, but I just smile and say ?yes, I get to spoil him/her and then let daddy take back over?. I think the only reason I would have been ashamed would have been if they had of chosen abortion or if he would have said ?that it wasn?t his fault? and dumped everything on her. They are still together and are making plans to go thru this together. I won?t sign papers from them to get married; I told them if they still wanted to when they turn 18 I will have the biggest celebration for them that they have ever seen. And that I would baby sit for them. KLS you are the first to tell me congradulations! Nana is already taken by Courtneys mom; what will he/she call me?

It is time to let go. Let my family be my family, they are here for me and need me; and I need them to. Let the past be simply that.

Thank you

HEY GUESS WHAT???? I AM GOING TO BE A GRANDMOTHER!!!! God - does that make me old???

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Will the shunning began?

by Mystery in

jw
friends

i fade over 20 years ago.

moved 800 miles from my jw family.

i see them about once a year.

Mystery

I fade over 20 years ago. Moved 800 miles from my JW family. I see them about once a year. Either them coming here or me going there.

I have a 16 year old son that has had a lot of problems. We finally had him diagnosed, he is bipolar and ADHD. It had taken 3 years but we finally (I think) have him on the correct meds and he is doing much better mentally.

During this time my mom and sister basically ignored the fact that he has a mental problem and has in a round about way said that if he had been brought up a JW?? everything would have been different. (Yea right ? he probably would have succeeded in his suicide attempts!)

I am not even going to go into that, I have another problem now. My ?baby? is going to be a daddy in 8 months. His girlfriend is pregnant. They are both only 16.

Not to mention the pro?s and con?s of this and the thousand other things that are on my mind; when it comes to me telling my mom and sister (and them telling the rest of the family) I become physically ill. When I think of calling my mother to let her know that she is going to be a great-grandmother I literally get sick. How do I tell her this? I have to tell his father also (not a JW ? but lives 10 miles from my mom) I am not near as upset about telling him. Even tho that will not be easy either.

I have thought for the past several years of writing my mom and telling her my reasons for never being able to return to JW?s. I am tired of (even tho it is only once a year) hiding things in my home so that ?they? wont see them. I am tired of being careful of what I say to them. I am tired of not being able to share my life, my real life with them. I am tired of listening to their ?adventures? out in field service, the assemblies, the new publications that are out. I am tired of their ?pity? for me. And for believing that "one day I will come back". Sometimes i simply want to tell her I will never be back and let the disfellowshipment began. I may now be getting my wish.

Are there any standards on how to treat a person (daughter) in my situation? Will they shun me now that my 16 year old son is about to be a father? Will this be the last straw to me being disfellowshipped? In a way I hope it is; but being thought of as ?dead? by your family isn?t very appealing either.

Thoughts or suggestions on how to tell her? Any idea?s on how I will now be treated?