research on your own the history of JW's.
If continue your study and you question anything ask...ask....ask..... until YOU are completely satisfied. If you are not 100% in agreement keep asking... research...
You saw your childs face when you told her "no more birthdays", was that the face of God. I thought all children had the face of God (well except when they become teenagers; then they take the opposite effect!! )
It isn't "just a study". It is your LIFE.
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Confused
by jusastudy ini have been reading your posts at work.
i have been studing with the witnesses for about a year this last time.
i have almost completed the knowledge book.
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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is Unscriptural?
by minimus inand for those that believe disfellowshipping is unacceptable, would you want to have known child molesters as members of a congregation that you were in?
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elumn8_2 - i am sorry if i misunderstood. I thought you were FOR disfellowshipping. A lot of the scriptures you quoted, the ones I remember from growing up, are the scriptures proving disfellowshipment.
And I was more than a little upset that day, due to an X-JW close friend of mine dying on Friday. I had just spoke with his JW sisters (literal sisters) and apparently they had not really talked to him in the past 20 years! After hearing them (and their justification of not talking to him from the scriptures) and then reading your post, it was some of the same scriptures they reminded me of during our telephone conversation.
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Is there a program on tonight re: Silent Lambs
by Mystery ini read the 2 previous threads; but i had todays date marked on my calender for tonight.
did i get the dates confused or is there a different show on tonight?
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I read the 2 previous threads; but i had todays date marked on my calender for tonight. Did i get the dates confused or is there a different show on tonight?
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Did You Ever Aspire To Be Anything Special In The Organization?
by minimus ini never wanted to go to bethel but when i was a teenager, i wondered what i would need to do to become a circuit overseer.
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I wanted to go to Bethel.
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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is Unscriptural?
by minimus inand for those that believe disfellowshipping is unacceptable, would you want to have known child molesters as members of a congregation that you were in?
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1 Corinthians 4:3 "Now to me it is a very trivial matter that I should be examined by YOU or by a human tribunal. Even I do not examine myself."
How can we examine others when we shouldn't even be examining ourselves?Then how can YOU/ELDERS disfellowship anyone? You examine EVERYONE that has a different thought than you.
Mattew 7:12 "All things, therefore, that YOU want men to do to YOU, YOU also must likewise do to them; this, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean.
If love was the law in our heart, what need would there be for other laws?
So i guess we can also throw the 10 Commandments out of the bible?Romans 3:20 "Therefore by works of law no flesh will be declared righteous before him, for by law is the accurate knowledge of sin."
If the laws in the bible is a means of showing us what sin is........
you just said that there was no need for laws? is this a Contradiction?Romans 5:9 "Much more, therefore, since we have been declared righteous now by his blood, shall we be saved through him from wrath."
Then why do you "worship" the Governing Body/WTBTS president in earlier days?Romans 6:14 "For sin must not be master over YOU, seeing that YOU are not under law but under undeserved kindness"
....then the bible shows us how important Jesus's undeserved kindness is to everyone.
Shunning is showing Jesus's undeserved kindness.Mathew 11:30 "my yoke is kindly my load is light"
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Do we have double standards about JWs?
by Skeptic indo we have a double standard as far as jws are concerned?
yes, i know that their claims of being better than any other religion sets them up for higher expectations.
and yes, generally jws are judgemental.
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I’m not partial or prejudice against JW’s in particular. I completely agree with garybuss and the other points brought out above.
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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is Unscriptural?
by minimus inand for those that believe disfellowshipping is unacceptable, would you want to have known child molesters as members of a congregation that you were in?
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minimus - sorry to get off the subject of your thread.
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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is Unscriptural?
by minimus inand for those that believe disfellowshipping is unacceptable, would you want to have known child molesters as members of a congregation that you were in?
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elumn8_2 - What grounds do "you" have for disfellowshipping simply because someone questions a 'belief' that just doesn't seem right to them?
How can shunning a person that has chosen to read the history of JW's and ask questions regarding the "birth" of JW's.
Ask the WTBTS for the history? Read Crisis of Conscience - prove it wrong.
Oh no - you can't read that! YOU might get disfellowshipped. Ask your elder if you can read it. You are so right. You believe with your whole heart! If you are absolutely, without a doubt, 100% sure then read the book and prove me wrong. Make me believe again. Make me a JW again, elumn8_2. Are you going to turn your back on someone asking you for help.
1884 - Bible Students became incorporated (It wasn't even Jehovah Witnesses in the beginning.) Your religion is about 119 years old. It is hard to believe that Moses, Daniel, Ruth, Mary of Magdalene, Jonah and all those other Bible people stayed faithful without JW's. And even without shunning.
1923 - The Watchtower declared Russell (the founder of JW's - did you know that he was a Presbyterian & also the Congregational Church - he got fed up with them {and you know what!! he wasn't even disfellowshipped for it!!} and CREATED HIS OWN RELIGION! - Did you know that about your religion?
1931 - As soon as Russell died Rutherford dismissed Russells direct direction for the organization to take and did what He wanted; not the originator of JW's. Only 8 years prior Rutherford had agreed that Russell was "the man sent from God".
Even in the beginning of Knorr's presidentcy there was NO GOVERNING BODY that handed down information to the congeration. It was thru Knorr and only Knorr that information was passed down to the congeration.
So you are following a religion that:
1)Was created by a X-Presbyterian and an X-Congregational Church member.
2)A man that said he was sent by God. (reminds me of David Korish)
3) A second man that decided himself that the first man was wrong, so he did it HIS way.
4) A lie in the Watchtower for years that said the information was coming down from the Governing Body, when it was directly coming down from Man #1, #2, and #3.
You know; i learned all of this in the first 88 pages. Man what else will i learn from reading the rest?
Again - read it and prove me wrong. I am asking you as a lost sheep needing to find my way back. Prove me wrong elumn8_2. -
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Name that dog?
by hippikon indue to security issues in our neighborhood we are getting a big dog.
we had a look at him tonight big siberian husky 8 months old and very big for a husky taller than i am when standing on his back legs more of a howler than a barker hope the neighbors dont complain.
loves children but dont think he could eat a whole one probably spit that bit out anyway.
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For all JWs [and x- JWs]
by be wise in.
self quiz - how do you score?
http://www.jwfiles.com/quiz.htm
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If I called it would be that "selfish" thing in JH's thread wouldn't it?