Posts by Mystery

the watchtower has been trying to get my wife appointed as the representative of bethany's estate so they would be in a possition to sue the doctors, hospital, child welfare and provincial government.

i decided to get involved to prevent this.

after many months of legal battling , the wts thru in the towel and gave up on the idea.

Mystery

Good Luck Lawrence,

Our prayers are with you.

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Give A Sample Of What a Watchtower Magazine Will Say 10 Years From Now

by minimus in

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friends

any thoughts??

?

Mystery

Armagedon is Just Around The Corner!

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Cheeses, my son, step right up and receive your promotion.

by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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250 and climbing.

senior member.

what an honour.

Mystery

Congradulations Cheese - you beat me on your challenge to become Sr. Member first.

But I have an excuse I can't seem to put CofC down long enough to reply, only long enough to try to read thru a few threads.

I bow to the Holy Cheese on my defeat.

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This is how it was

by SheilaM in

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friends

the girl in the bubble

awkward as the winter tights my mother insisted i wear.

they were blue, or red or possibly green, always coordinated to my outfits.

Mystery

I wanted to reply....

but I have no idea what to say.

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An answer

by donkey in

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friends

time's.ticking by, taking so long.

menot feeling very strong.

eyesstarting to close.

Mystery

Time's… ours for as long as we have it
Me…feeling like I may not have the answers
Eyes…but seeing that the “truth” will set me free
Relief… that I now control my own life
Blood…is what nourishes me to continue on

Nirvana…exist inside of me
Watch…as I grow stronger and stronger
Gone…are my doubts of tomorrow

Peace….comes to me with each waking day
Tranquility…is now what I see
Sleepy…and tired from a day of hard work and liberty
Reality…brings the real truth back to me

Sadness… only when I am not “living”, but dwelling in pity
Outcome… is something we cannot control my friend.
Why…instead of Why ask What will we do to complete our life
Ogre…we are all different aren’t we? An Ogre, a saint. A troll, a fairy.

Solution…believe as our hearts command
Action…only to do your best
Slipping…doubt in all we do
Shivering…in the old belief’s we had

Religion…is only a pomp and circumstance
Lost…not sanity, but disbelief
Sobbing…because “truths” have ended up deceit
Frightened…that we will never know

So long…to the lies of yesterday
Promise…that we will make it thru another day.

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How Long Does It Take To Forget?

by shamus in

i guess that some parts to the cultish religion are hard to shake off.

simply put, i still worry that maybe i'm wrong.

(i still wouldn't want to live in a new world with those idiots, even if they were right).

Mystery

When I first began fading I did all the things JW's couldn't.
A few years later I began researching. Not on the web; it was a little while before it was so common. I researched at the library. I looked for truths in history. In the definition of cults. I read and read. I never really found true answers for a Christian belief, but I did find that JW’s history was, at the least, controversial. It gave me enough assurance that leaving was not “wrong”.

So for a long time, I ignored anything to do with Christianity, with the Bible, with praying, with everything.

Suddenly I had two sons. At a young age they did not ask a lot of questions. But as teenagers they are. My oldest had a friend to die in a car wreck. He wants to know where she is. He wants to know where I will be going when I die.

Still, 20 years being out, I can not answer him. I ask the same question to everyone on this forum after I had “lurked” for awhile. I received a lot of the same thoughts that were of my own. It doesn’t matter what I think happens after I die, I can’t change whatever that may me, all I can do now is hold my sons & my husband. Tell them how much I love them. Live my life in the best way I know possible.

Armageddon. No I am not afraid of it any more.

I am reading CofC. Everytime I pick it up it is very difficult to put down. I get extremely angry! I cry. I yell. I can’t believe that people (absolutely!!!! NOT God’s people!!) can openly manipulate others the way that the JW organization has done “us”. People physically put their lives in the hands of this sect. Their propaganda has convinced others to the point of literally dying for a “belief” that is completely erroneous.

They lie in the name of “God”.

Am I afraid of Armageddon? No. Am I afraid to die? No. Do I have the answers? No. Did the JW’s teach me anything? Yes. They taught me, my own thoughts, never to believe in an organized religion again. I hope I give my sons enough peace to not worry about me when I die. But when they ask me where I will go when I die, I still can’t answer them directly. I know that I am basically a good person. I hope I have helped more people than I have hurt. I still believe in God. If, when I die, I sleep forever then that is what is to be. If there really is a heaven and a hell, I hope I have done more good than bad. If there is a paradise earth that we all share, I hope I have a log cabin on a hillside with a creek running along the back yard near my porch.

Will I ever forget JW’s? No. Will ever get completely over them? No. They are part of my past. Part of my life. They will never go away. But – I now control how preoccupied I become with my past. And I have chosen to live in the present; not the past. I don’t know all the answers, maybe one day I will, but then again, if we know all the answers what is the challenge in living?

I didn’t really answer your question, it is just where I am 20 years after the fact. And still learning.

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Was CT Russell a CHILD MOLESTOR? (WTS says: Child Molestation NOT IMMORAL)

by Gamaliel in

before i get to the evidence of the claim above, i need to offer the following explanation.

most of you will know exactly where i am going with this story, but i'd like the opinions of those who don't have any idea.

they might be free from the kinds of biases that i know i already have.

Mystery

type

The same letter to Woodworth as published here by Russell, curiously shows Russell had followers who believed that even if he was guilty, it wasn't all that bad: David was 1000 times worse and Russell's great monumental work would still live on to overcome public outcry and the subsequent lapse of Russell's influence:
If it were possible to admit the charge, David fell a thousand times lower, but in repentance became the "Sweet Psalmist of Israel." Peter fell and Jesus prayed for him, and he became the strength of the brethren, and was privileged to feed Christ's lambs. Knowing as we do the consecration, the labor, self-renunciation, the Christ-like spirit, nothing short of an angel from heaven or his own admission would convince us. If guilty, he would well know that a mere social ostracism to himself alone would not be the result, but a public ostracism of his teachings and a lapsing of his influence. That the direst denunciation of Babylon even now, true or not, will fall upon his work is to be expected. And yet the monumental work of MILLENNIAL DAWN, establishing from the prophecies the God-given "Plan of the Ages," will go
down to posterity as certainly as the epistles of Paul!type
(Sorry but I still cant figure out shading quotes)

Regardless; would the above be an argument for shunning? Is this in a WT publication? Where is it referenced? (sorry to get off the molestor portion of the thread)

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Kingdom Hall being sold to church

by tinman72 in

ok, maybe not a real scandal, but this really bugs the hell out of me!

in short, the kingdom hall i went to as child and teen, is being sold to a church.

my mother (still active) informed me of this.

Mystery

Completely Hypocritical.

My dad would not even bid on a church to make a living. (He was an electrician) But a KH can be sold to a church.