Yup I never understood the "right heart condition" thing either, but maybe that's because I didn't have it.
I'm not sure what a song about heroine abuse would have to do with it though.
ok, i'm on a roll.. were you all told that only people with the right heart condition would understand the scriptures?.
and, did you constantly feel like you did not have the right heart condition?.
i just sorta gave up as my heart was not going to be manipulated anymore.. so, sometimes i kinda feel like i have a defective heart.. i don't know why this song comes to mind............it just did.. .
Yup I never understood the "right heart condition" thing either, but maybe that's because I didn't have it.
I'm not sure what a song about heroine abuse would have to do with it though.
mine is garak because he has a healthy cynicism about everything, yet is good deep down.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/garak .
slim.
Barclay was my favorite, followed closely by Quark. Crap I'm revealed as a Trekker...
i always thought that my dad was a smart man, that he still had his common sense, but now i see that's not true.
and for some stupid reason, this has really got to me tonight.
i'm sharing the content of this discussion so that maybe someone else can see the ignorance of this horrible religion of people who cannot really love because their evil bible won't let them.
Eh, he's pissed and he doesn't want to admit anything he believes is wrong. I always heard a saying "When the student is ready, the teacher appears". The UN issue and the Blood issue aren't really issues for JW's who haven't really expirienced something that will force them to look at it. No one would understand the UN issue without a very long explination, and it's something very easily overlooked. The blood issue isn't an issue unless you or a family member is undergoing an operation.
Sorry he's not receptive, but you're going to have to hit something he's personally doubting for any chink in his armor to show.
first thing i'd notice is how the old ones got so much older and how the kids became adults and are taller than me.. next thing i'd notice would be how long and dull the meetings are.. *yawn*.
Let's see last time I went was in '02 for the memorial and the first thing I noticed was that all the back seats were taken and I had to sit near the front. That totally sucked!
http://www.creciendoengracia.com/.
this is not a joke, there's a nut in puerto rico who swears he's jesus.
he has a couple of million followers who seem to believe him too.
Jesus is back.... crap look busy
i know many here who have had good and bad jw social experiences.
some went camping, hiking etc, went to the beach.
some had no social life at all in the org and some had congregations where nothing ever happened socially.. i know of one sister, who has since left, who complained that the only thing witnesses did when they got together, was share a meal.. now, there's nothing wrong with sharing a meal.
Video games and the occasional game of manhunt. God there were people in their mid-20's playing manhunt. Seriously I'm 26 now realizing that if I was playing manhunt with a couple of teenagers that's rather disturbing. At the best I would be a dork, at the worst... well I guess the don't ask don't tell would be best right
were you ever stuck with a book study conductor that was outright boring, with no teaching abilities .
and there was nothing you could do about it but sit and fake it like you were spiritually fed and got stuck with him for years?
?.
Wow, if I listened I'd tell you LOL. I remember more so a conductor who had a low voice so it was hard to understand him, and he used really horrible analogies for stuff that didn't really make sense. "Jesus is loving, like a horse with peanut butter in his mouth"
to add to the previous thread regaurding beards i have a similar issue with long hair.
i wanted so long to grow it out but of course couldn't.
there is, however a scripture that baffled me, 1co 11:14 "does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him; but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her?
I lost my privileges for having long hair. I was collar length at the time, which if the front and the sides weren't the same length I would've been fine to do anything basically. That was my question "what constitutes long?" It's basically up to your elder's discretion, I remember at the time there was a big deal in the congregation about the teenagers in the hall drinking alot and dating, so when I was asked to cut my hair I started rubbing my eye and said "Oh man there's something in my eye, I don't know maybe it's a splinter".
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personal and more than likely good reasons.
and after reading the .
I can deny anything I want... *sticks out tongue*
i'm just curious how some of the people who have left the orginization for years and years can continually keep up with all the happenings in the orginization?
i've been gone about 6 years now at most i go through phases of either wanting to know or not caring, usually it's like a week or two of interest followed by months of not caring at all.
i'm just curious how you all can do it?
I'm just curious how some of the people who have left the orginization for years and years can continually keep up with all the happenings in the orginization? I've been gone about 6 years now at most I go through phases of either wanting to know or not caring, usually it's like a week or two of interest followed by months of not caring at all. I'm just curious how you all can do it? I'd love to study and be ready for when someone comes to my door or a friend has a question for me, but I don't think I'm motivated enough to care, any help here from you guys?