i just wanted to get a general consensus of what are the motivations to attend an ex-jw meet up.
if you've already attended one before, what motivated you the first time or each successive time?
if you've never attended an ex-jw meet up before what do you think could motivate you to attend one?.
Oh I forgot chance to get preached to. Seriously guys, this is fantastic information.
A second question here if I could press a little further; what's the furthest you'd be willing to go to an ex-JW meet up if you knew you'd be able to meet some former JWs you really like when there?
i just wanted to get a general consensus of what are the motivations to attend an ex-jw meet up.
if you've already attended one before, what motivated you the first time or each successive time?
if you've never attended an ex-jw meet up before what do you think could motivate you to attend one?.
This is really cool to hear. So stuff that prevents people from going to meet ups is distance (especially if there's only going to be like 10 people or so), activities: meaning basically there's nothing to do or talk about when you're together, possibility of being spotted by actual Jehovah's Witnesses if you're fading or whatever.... are there any I'm missing?
Threads like these with all sorts of great data to wrap my head around is the reason I love this forum so much.
i just wanted to get a general consensus of what are the motivations to attend an ex-jw meet up.
if you've already attended one before, what motivated you the first time or each successive time?
if you've never attended an ex-jw meet up before what do you think could motivate you to attend one?.
I just wanted to get a general consensus of what are the motivations to attend an ex-JW meet up. If you've already attended one before, what motivated you the first time or each successive time? If you've never attended an ex-JW meet up before what do you think could motivate you to attend one?
Thanks everyone, I'm really interested to read everyone's responses
i recall reading somewhere that in his lifetime fred franz was listed as one of the most intelligent men in the usa.
can anyone think to what i am referring?
You can get a good idea of how intelligent a person is by their speech patterns, their speeches written and their writings. I would say from the things floating around the web that were either dictated by or written by Mr. Franz he's of average intelligence. Then again when we're comparing him to other JWs I have no doubt he must seem like a super-computer.
now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall thursday, april 5, 2012, after sundown.. close to 20 million people will attend this annual global witness event including active witnesses, relatives and friends of witnesses, bible studies,return visits and still attached former witnesses.
the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.. many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses and you can be an instrumental force by standing tall and courageously exposing the watchtower organization.. there is no better way to let the watchtower know your revulsion than to broadcast and present your view by standing fearlessly, demonstrating in front of a kingdom hall.. i am fully aware that a handful of the internet therapists who post on this forum will not agree with this method of unmasking the watchtower.. those intolerant, contemptuous critics who will comment on this thread making harsh judgements and finding fault with those who protest are perhaps deep-down wishing they had the backbone to stop hiding in cyber-space, step away from their computer and "get out of the bleachers and into the game" .
lets make this a global event!......
So let me take a moment to comment on this. I don't feel demonstrations are the way to go, I don't feel going to the memorial holding a sign or holding signs outside the hall are going to make a lick of difference.
What does make a huge difference, get a large group together. Dress similarly, wear a vast apostate army pin and sit in silence. Don't protest, don't do anything stupid, just sit through the memorial and when it's over leave. Don't sing their songs, don't say amen to their prayer, don't close your eyes, don't fold your hands. When the bread and wine comes around pass it forward essentially looking right through it.
If someone strikes up a conversation with you tell them "I'm here as a member of the Vast Apostate Army". I did it last year, as a single person I literally had an entire congregation in silence around me. This year I'm hoping to get 20 people to do the same thing with me.
That's my thoughts on the thing, you do this as a couple of people holding signs they are going to ignore you. If you go in there as an identity from a group it will make an impact.
one thing that i have always noticed even when i was a jw is that the jw org has lots and lots and lots of rules for allsorts of stupid petty rules which make no difference.
when you read the bible you see how they are clearly in the wrong here and are acting like the pharisees themselves, who imposed so much pressure on others to conform to the law.
am i missing something here!?!?
Your post is the exact approach I use when broaching the blood doctrine, I talk about the pharisees first then hit the blood doctrine. Works like a charm every time.
does anyone here have a copy of the book a guide to reinstatement by anthony crispin?
if so, can you share?
marvin shilmer.
I've heard about it, also from what I understand he's no longer a JW.
i was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to jws about, list as many as you feel..
I suppose a follow up question here, there are all these books on How to discuss things with Jehovah's Witnesses like the ones by David A. Reed or Ron Rhodes...
Does anyone find them helpful in these subjects? To me it seems it trains people to play bible ping-pong which I don't feel is helpful at all.
i was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to jws about, list as many as you feel..
Would you say it's discussing the Governing Body or the wrong things the WT says that is difficult?
Anyone here find it difficult to discuss things like the Trinity or maybe Evolution?
i was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to jws about, list as many as you feel..
I was just wondering what everyone here found the most frustrating to talk to JWs about, list as many as you feel.
