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  An Interesting Thing Happened at the Meeting Yesterday...

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  this was reported to me by an attendee: during the watchtower, a brother commented that "we shouldn't question things that we don't have the full facts about, such as why is it so expensive to have an assembly at the grantville assembly hall?

  it would be far cheaper to rent our own space to have an assembly than it is to use grantville.

  we don't have all the facts so we don't know the reasons why and it isn't our place to question".

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  Zoos

  <--- Taking bets that this guy will be in the library answering uncomfortable questions by the end of the week.
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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this...

  by Muddy Waters in

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  to any jws watching and reading here, please know thiis:.

  .... we know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... relax right now.. your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right?

  isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?.

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  Zoos

  Nice way to put it MW. I felt very awkward coming to this site the first time also.

  Okay, maybe the first dozen times.

  But the questions I had compelled me. Things were not adding up. I was reading one thing from the bible and experiencing something disturbingly different at the Kingdom Hall and out in service. I always chalked it up to my own spiritual weakness or inexperience and tried to let it go but it kept nagging at me.

  Imagine my surprise when the pieces began falling into place by reading information from websites the WT society always warned us against.

  Coincidence?

  "Let the reader use discernment."

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  Okay Terry - you and your 197-page book!

  by Zoos in

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  my copy of i wept by the rivers of babylon just arrived last night and as i was thumbing through just reading snippets i landed on the final page, the the end page... page 197.. .

  and what do you have to say for yourself young man?

  can't wait to dive into it this evening..

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  Zoos

  Uh-oh. You may be right.

  Okay, I need to hide now.
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  A big shout out to Simon-JWN my new days text !!!!!

  by 70wksfyrs in

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  dear simon,.

  i want to give you a great big public thank you!!!!.

  jwn has been instrumental in my deprogramming.

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  Zoos

  I still have many lingering behaviours, like reading the days text. Why????????????????

  I continued reading the daily taxt for several months after I left. It's a value-of-spiritual-things thing. It took me some time to ween myself off the WT diet.

  If you're looking for a scriptural daily text or thought for the day, try one of these sites:

  http://dailybible.americanbible.org/

  http://odb.org/
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  Okay Terry - you and your 197-page book!

  by Zoos in

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  my copy of i wept by the rivers of babylon just arrived last night and as i was thumbing through just reading snippets i landed on the final page, the the end page... page 197.. .

  and what do you have to say for yourself young man?

  can't wait to dive into it this evening..

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  Zoos

  My copy of I Wept by the Rivers of Babylon just arrived last night and as I was thumbing through just reading snippets I landed on the final page, the The End page... page 197.

  And what do you have to say for yourself young man? LOL

  Can't wait to dive into it this evening.
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  Getting Stuck on the Idea of Closure

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.

  once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.

  " they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.

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  If the Watchtower (active spouse) is still in your life then you're essentially still in an abusive relationship. How can you expect closure, healing, or any other positive development in that kind of environment?

  Zoos <----- not a counselor.
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  I'm Perfect, You're Doomed - a review

  by Farkel in

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  "i'm perfect, you're doomed" by kyria abrahams, 2009, touchstone.. if you want a way to get people out of that horrible cult, easily, quickly and expeditiously, then here is how to do that.. i can say with a vote of confidence that anyone who reads this book will never and i mean never become a dub.

  dubs who read it (assuming they have at least one or two brain cells left) will run from their religion like flies on shit when you pour bleach on it and blow it up with dynamite.. toss away crisis of conscience, apocalypse delayed, 30 years a watchtower slave and all those other very nice books and read this one.

  i read those and all the other ones.

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  Zoos

  I bought this book on Farkel's recommendation. It's everything he billed it to be.

  We've enjoyed it. Thanks Farkel.
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  Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

  i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

  or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

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  Zoos

  You're right Blondie, I said that wrong.

  Thanks!
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  The Jehovah's Witness religion has gone for good !!!

  by snare&racket in

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  i am not sure how you all feel as we all left at different times for different reasons.... but this new bible seems to have put some final nails into a coffin that was once my jw life.

  the religion is so far and so different to the religion i grew up in that it has become something i feel no affiliation with anymore, no bond, no shared ideas or even sentimental views.

  different teachings on when the end is coming.

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  Zoos

  Yeah, they warned us this would happen if we didn't keep up with Jehovah's celstial chariot. LOL
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  Who Will Be The Next Member Of The Governing Body To Defect From The Corporation?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  while it may seem unlikely which of the currant governing body members do you feel would be most likely to defect?

  i know it is a loaded question.. what about wealthy anthony morris iii?

  or mark sanderson or geoffrey jackson?

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  Zoos

  When Ray Franz left the GB (still an active JW), things were different then. He had a friend who was able to give him a place to live and employment to support himself. The disassociated status of his friend was a non issue.. at first, anyway.

  Any GB member today has presumably spent most of his adult life at Bethel. It's unlikely he has any wordly contacts so if he were to defect he would have no safety net. No JW would hire him or give him a place to live.

  Any GB member even rolling the idea around in his head would have to be assured in advance that someone would be there to catch him, offer him a room, job, something... anything.