just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!
feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!
I'm sorry to hear about this. It sucks having a parent that would exclude you to this extreme. What ever happened to "except for family emergencies" in the shunning game?
I expect to learn of my own mother's passing from one of my periodic internet obituary searches for her name. They are foaming at the mouth in their determination to ostracize me from their lives.
Heart goes out to you.
i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
So obviously even among Jehovah's Witnesses there is ongoing confusion and commotion as to who should and should not partake so much so that WT has to remind the R & F to obey!
Oh you poor little Watchtower leaders. THIS is not the result of confusion. Fewer and fewer take you seriously anymore! You are growing more irrelevant every day. You are background noise! Your blah blah blah has been weighed in the balance and you have failed to meet expectations.
i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.
i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.
it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.
OnTheWayOut9 hours agoZoos, thanks for that. Is that a quote I missed or just a thought of yours?
In a recent thread (I cannot find) reporting on the missteps of WT lawyers I read where they were asked by the judge why they failed to file/obtain/pursue something ordered by the court.
The lawyer's response was, "We could have but we didn't."
I was just spoofing that comment.
i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.
i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.
it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.
Philippine Authority: "Why didn't you evacuate?"
Philippine Elders: "We could have, but we didn't."
i had a photo copy of the magazine "the generation that will never die!
" sitting in my office, he saw it and being the voracious reader he is, he asked me "why did the magazine say all those people would never die?
" i told him "humans make mistakes, they were wrong by claiming that.
Oh, what these kids absorb.
Good job, Jr.!
"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.
but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.
--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.
Anyone else leave the Society in part due to their treatment of gay people?
I left entirely because of the gay issue. All the other realizations came after my disassociation.
You cannot lay down such a hard line anti-gay policy and it not effect the attitudes of the masses towards gays. THEY SAY that they accept gays at the Kingdom Hall, and to be fair I experienced that from a few that knew I was gay. But by far the attitude was stand-offish by those who knew me, and a willingness to verbally trash, condemn, mock, joke and make fun of gays by those who didn't know me - didn't realize they were talking about me to my face.
The simplicity of "hate the sin, love the sinner" goes as far as the paper it is written on, for most. That rule falls apart when you have speakers from the platform ranting about how disgusting homos are, how obscene they are to look at in public, how demoralizing it is to be mistaken for one,... and the rants go on and on.
Later, when you wake up and realize homosexuality is not the sin you had always been led to believe it was, then:
i recently learned of the possibility that my son has a love child and that this child is in prison.
the child was born in the early 80s.
i learned that my ex-wife and her parents may have paid a large sum of money to the young mother (and others) in order to keep this scandal out of the press and perhaps out of earshot of the local elders.
so many times the wt uses a phrase close to that, when they really mean accept the gb's discipline.
with all of these sex abuse cases and other skeletons in the gb closet coming to light, just like king david, perhaps somebody should tell the gb to take their own advice and accept jehovah's discipline as all of their dirty laundry will continue to get exposed and they need to humble themselves.
remember when Chas Russell wrote that they would never beg for donations
They're not begging for donations. They're demanding, taking.
Sheesh! ;)
if all religion is a snare and a racket as per judge rutherford, then has religion maybe lied to us on this score too?.
could jesus have meant: "if you belonged to the (religious) world, it would love you as its own.
as it is, you do not belong to the (religious) world, but i have chosen you out of the (religious) world.
Perry, you can't explain what spirit is so there's no way you could hope to explain the difference. It's all woo and mumbo jumbo.
Nice off-topic attack, Viviane. Please come again.
jehovah church faces flood of sex abuse cases.
"a woman who was abused from the age of four by a senior officer of the jehovahs witnesses has lodged a 500,000 claim for compensation in a test case that could open the door to hundreds more suits involving members of the religious organisation in the uk.".
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/crime/article1525363.ece.
If we help them to marry the criticism levelled by the WT against the Catholic Church and others, with the reality of the filth within the WT/JW Org, they can make a great story of Hypocrisy, Lying, Cover-up, and stupid ineptitude driven by ignorant Dogma.
Yes, but... where are the direct quotes in WT literature where they rip the Catholic Church abuse problem in the same way they ripped them from the platform? We've all HEARD their anti-Catholic rhetoric but we need it in print.
