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  We're not trying to convert you

  by jws in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).

  it was an article about jws and their preaching work.

  imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?

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  Zoos

  smiddy
  Theocratic warfare is just another term for lying...

  No it isn't. Never has been.

  See what I did there? ;)
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  Another brave girl tells of her Abuse by JW's !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/abused-brother-shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-10233281.

  this poor girl was abused by her "non-jw" (never baptised ?

  ) brother, then was totally abused by the jw elders by their lack of care for her in any way, and then by her jw family, read the in-depth article, link above..

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  “I was told they would strongly advise me against reporting it to the police,” she says. “It would bring reproach on God’s name and look bad for the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  “They thrust a couple of Awake magazines in my hand and said there were stories of other sisters who had been through a similar situation of abuse, and that they had turned to Jehovah and prayed. They said our religion would help me get over it.

  “They also said I couldn’t get counselling because that would also be talking to outside sources and would bring shame on our religion.

  “They said, ‘If you want to get counselling come to us.’ But why would I go and speak to three men about my sexual abuse?

  “They were sympathetic but basically said not to burden the congregation by telling any of my friends because it could bring them down spiritually. I was embarrassed because I was thinking, ‘Did I do anything wrong? Was it me?’

  “I didn’t feel I got the support I should have got. It was gut-wrenching.”

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  “I heard someone say my main goal was to bash the religion, as opposed to getting justice.

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  I guess that last sentiment is why her parents were able to turn on her so completely, this mentality of: Protect the religion at all costs.
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  We're not trying to convert you

  by jws in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).

  it was an article about jws and their preaching work.

  imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?

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  Zoos

  I actually heard an elder (the most arrogant, @$$#073 of an elder I ever met) say from the platform, "Don't tell people we're not trying to convert them. OF COURSE we're trying to convert them."

  That single moment of unabashed honesty about what was really going on got stuck in my head.
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  I got up yesterday morning (Saturday) and enjoyed the watchtower work

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  reaching the fire watchtower on top of wayah bald overlooking the smokey mountains can be a difficult hike from nantahala lake up the bartram and appalachian trails where they straddle each other passing through this area.

  the most enjoyable watchtower work i've ever participated in.. the views from the tower are spectacular.. .

  looking across nantahala forest to the smoky mountains, described poetically as the most elevated peak; from whence i beheld with rapture and astonishment, a sublimely awful scene of power and magnificence, a world of mountains piled upon mountains.

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  Too bad it was too early for the Autumn color change.

  
  Actually, there was spectacular fall color yesterday. The pictures I posted above were taken a month or so ago when I did the same hike. Yesterday was kind of drizzly and I didn't take my camera with me.
  

  
  

  Tail of the Dragon - never heard of it. Just googled it and it's about 40 miles NW of where I was. That whole area is rapidly becoming my favorite place on earth so I have no doubt we will be exploring the Tail of the Dragon before too long.

  Looks like it would wear out a set of tires real fast.
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  I got up yesterday morning (Saturday) and enjoyed the watchtower work

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  reaching the fire watchtower on top of wayah bald overlooking the smokey mountains can be a difficult hike from nantahala lake up the bartram and appalachian trails where they straddle each other passing through this area.

  the most enjoyable watchtower work i've ever participated in.. the views from the tower are spectacular.. .

  looking across nantahala forest to the smoky mountains, described poetically as the most elevated peak; from whence i beheld with rapture and astonishment, a sublimely awful scene of power and magnificence, a world of mountains piled upon mountains.

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  Reaching the fire watchtower on top of Wayah Bald overlooking the Smokey Mountains can be a difficult hike from Nantahala lake up the Bartram and Appalachian trails where they straddle each other passing through this area.

  The most enjoyable watchtower work I've ever participated in.

  The views from the tower are spectacular.

  

  Looking across Nantahala Forest to the Smoky Mountains, described poetically as “the most elevated peak; from whence I beheld with rapture and astonishment, a sublimely awful scene of power and magnificence, a world of mountains piled upon mountains.” - William Bartram, 1773

  .... Oh, you thought I meant "Watchtower"!? LOL No, no , no... LOL
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  A new member

  by Kurteousmaximus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi... i am new and after nearly 20 years after being disassociated at 15 i would like to make contact with others who have similar difficulties.

  my mother was disfellowshipped shortly after my rebellion and had all ties with both her mother and brother cut and that remains the case.. just really hacked off with not being able to put things in the proper place in my life after all these years.

  for the record i don't know if i believe in god but am searching for some peace as i seem to self destruct on a regular basis.. any ideas anyone?.

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  Hey Kurt

  When I got the boot from the org. at age 19 I self destructed too. Stayed destructed for several years. It took me a good long while to get my head back on straight and even now, sometimes... I twitch.

  This cult kills people in so many ways, on so many levels, both figuratively and literally. Come here and talk it out. Kick a box around all you want, all you need.

  You're not alone.

  Welcome!
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  No accommodation at Bethel in Brazil for Pioneers

  by TheTruthBR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bethel in brazil (and i think in other countries as well) when a jw does 10 years of regular pioneer (or other form of full-time service) it can ask to stay three days in bethel.no longer in brazil, according to a letter sent today to all the congregations in brazil:ref .

  : accommodation in betheldear brothers:in recent years, there has been a great privilege to stay in bethel those be welcome for over 10 years as regular pioneers and be encouraged by the zeal they have shown.

  - rom.

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  Well I hope the brothers can at least still get SAVED through works.

  "Please, Watchtower... don't take away our salvation too."
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  There Have Been So Many Changes Lately!

  by disillusioned 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  these words were spoken yesterday by my 85 year old mum.

  she told me they had a special letter read out on sunday read by one of the governing body telling them they were stopping the ministry school.

  i feigned surprise.

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  Old folks just aren't as pliable in mind or body. It would be nice if they could pass peacefully in the comfort of their delusion for the sake of humanity.

  But when has Watchtower HQ ever been interested in humanity? Your 85 year old mum will get more sympathy from apostates than she will from her revered leaders.
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  How intelligent people get recruited and psychologically trapped in manipulative groups like Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauhr-trkhy

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  Zoos

  Excellent, EXCELLENT video.

  Will share.
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  Oh the humanities...my wicked neighbor!

  by username in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i have been given a piece of birthday cake as it was his birthday yesterday!

  will i be a human hot dog now?.....

  this just got me thinking of all the stupidities of the watchtower teachings, someone very kindly offers you something as innocent as a slice of chocolate cake but we were supposed to turn it down because that peace of chocolate cake now had horns poking out the top of the chocolate frosting.

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  I have turned down so many offerings of birthday cake in purity and self righteousness. Only now do I understand the looks of "what a FREAK" and confusion.

  I used to think they only looked at me that way because they were devoid of godliness, the look of someone slated for death at Armageddon... the disgusting look of someone who eats............ birthday cake.

  "Go ahead goat. Go ahead bird food. Go ahead murderers, adulterers and people who eat birthday cake.... for I.... I will live forever in paradise on earth while you eat your filthy confection of doom!"