Posts by outforever

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Full-time service is MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of elderly parents!!! It says so in the Sept 2014 WT

by EndofMysteries in

paragraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .

"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.

when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.

outforever

Let me tell you something - especially for the ones who are just looking at this site and have not yet made up your mind to leave / or cannot leave etc / my mother was s pioneer (too old now I think about 78 or so) (she has not spoken to me in 8 or 10 years) but about a year or so ago - my big sister (about 56 years) who is married to an elder and they both pioneer / asked my little sister who (about 50 years) to ask me if I can help with money to get my mother into a nursing home.

My reply was yes (but did not feel in my heart to do so) i will but she must come to me and ask me to my face for help which did not happen - so no did not help and to tell you the honest truth if my mother dies i will not attend the funeral at the kingdom hall - over the years one just does not "feel" like this is my mother.

I am not sorry I feel like this - this is jus the way it is.

.......and the elders encourged my sister to ask others in the family to help - BUT NO HELP CAME FROM ANYONE ELSE in the congregation - just all talk and no carry thru. Bunch of no goods!!

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Up Late and Can't Sleep

by lambsbottom in

jw
friends

me and the spouse decided to not go to the dc and it takes place tommorow.

all our jw friends are headed down there tonight.

feeling lonely and left out but know this is the right choice.

outforever

What TableForOne saying makes sense: the internal and external thought.

"not conforming to the group think" when you don't think along the lines of what other million of jw are thinking / by not being part of the trip to the assemblies / you start feeling lonley because one is so used to being controlled - so now that you have to think for yourself one sometimes feels lost - which is good because you once lost you will be found by yourself - without any help from the borg.

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Hello All

by Jeremiah1958 in

hi to everyone, my name is jerry, i am 56 and i live in tralee, kerry ireland.

i will not bore you with the all too familiar details, suffice it to say i was a prime candidate for indoctrination/ brainwashing.

the surprising aspect is that my wife, a staunch catholic started a study soon after i did.

outforever

welcome to the site - Freedom! Freedom!

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New Zealand.

by karter in

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friends

who lives here?.

whos been here?.

who wants to come here?.

outforever

Lots of South Africans emigrate to NZ.

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How do individual JW's justify Jehovah's Old Testament orders to kill little children even babies (amalekites, canaanites)?

by Daniel1555 in

in 1. samuel 15:2-3 we read jehovah's order to kill "all" amalekites.

it says "you are to put them to death, man as well as woman, child as well as infant...".

in deuteronomy 2:32-34 the israelites say about sihon.

outforever

I said to this christian that I do not believe in a god: that god is very harsh because he condoned the slaughter of innocent babies and people:

if he can kill like he did in the old testement then change his mind and say in the new testiment that he sent his son for our sins and now we must be all forgiving and loving: this god changes his mind:

He kills when he wants (even though one of the 10 commandments say "you should not kill") then he sends his son: kills him: but we must not sin: does not make sense to me:

Then I get this reply back: "We should rather look and see how merciful god is because we are so sinful he could have easierly have zapped us.

I said what about the babies:

Reply: " In a fallen world, isn't it possible that god may have to periodically authorize some less-than-ideal measures in order to deter further evil? (goodness can you belive this!!)

also he said "In a fallen evil world (unlike the one that god created) there are seldom any really happy alternatives, what god eventually condoned here as necessary is certainly not what he originally envisioned as ideal" "he may choose to use any means that he may choose to use as this is self-justified ----- after all he is the creator.

So you see they are just like the jw's god can no anything and it is right - may low and behold we have sex before marriage - or not do 10 hours field service - or go to another church - then at the end we will all be zapped.......oh unless you are a jw (even if you do 1 hours field service)

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The great British Weather

by FL_Panthers in

anyone else getting a bit tired of being wetted upon?.

i've sort of had enough already, suede shoes in the rain is not not a good idea.. .

on the plus side, it's fun for fish .

outforever

ah shame! was looking at Sky news this morning and yes for you guys it is all rain. I am in South Africa, Durban and we are sort of into winter - but the sun is shining and do not have to wear a jacket. Wonderful!

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I want to start a website/ministry to help JWs leaving - how and why?

by Dogpatch in

i have plenty of tips on my older site on starting ministries or outreaches.

though today they are now generally sites for public assistance, not personal blogs or opinion or doctrinal sites.

free minds has covered doctrines, news, opinions, and more for 32 years (since 1996 online).

outforever

Randy I do not know how I got to Freeminds - not sure - think it was on the ex Jehovhas Witness site - then saw that I can go to Freeminds and JWfacts. It really helped me - my eyes were opne HUGE. I did not have a computer at home - so I spent about 3 hours after work reading and printing out huge amounts of stories / facts etc (i bought my own paper so that I could print and print and print)

After 4 years of talking to my sister she herself is now out!! and I still had some aritcles for her to read - but she went to this site hereself and she could not believe all the facts and stories.

To start a new website - one has to think like a JW who is trying to figure out the truth - but who does not want to go to a web site that has a name of GOD etc in (they are too scared as you know) so tough one! if one is trying to leave the so called truth then those people are still comfortable with calling god Jehovah so I would think it would need to be a site with the name Jehovah somewhere in the heading.

why help! oh please they need help / the young ones have the technology to go to the internet / but it is the old ones like my mom who has no idea - she is in for good and there is no changing her mind!!

thanks Randy for taking the time and huge amount of effort / to have the freemings site / it must have been a huge strain on you sometimes ....but thanks.

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Blood transfusion refused by parents of a 6 month old!!

by outforever in

this was in the paper wednesday - in south africa - durban.

which is quite surprising as our papers usually do not carry stories like this.. this is a prem baby - now 6 months.

the dr's had to obtain a high court order to allow the procedure.. the baby had to have a blood transfusion as it could not absorb the mother's milk and supplements cannot be used because of his tiny body.. the parents refused to give their consent and was on life support so the dr submitted to the court that this was an infringement on the.

outforever

Yep the parents are so happy that the decision was taken out of their hands - so now they have their baby - healthy and well and the Dr's are to blame!

They will be on the platform soon - giving their experience. What strong witnessess of jah!

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Blood transfusion refused by parents of a 6 month old!!

by outforever in

this was in the paper wednesday - in south africa - durban.

which is quite surprising as our papers usually do not carry stories like this.. this is a prem baby - now 6 months.

the dr's had to obtain a high court order to allow the procedure.. the baby had to have a blood transfusion as it could not absorb the mother's milk and supplements cannot be used because of his tiny body.. the parents refused to give their consent and was on life support so the dr submitted to the court that this was an infringement on the.

outforever

This was in the paper Wednesday - in South Africa - Durban. Which is quite surprising as our papers usually do not carry stories like this.

This is a prem baby - now 6 months. The Dr's had to obtain a high court order to allow the procedure.

The baby had to have a blood transfusion as it could not absorb the mother's milk and supplements cannot be used because of his tiny body.

The parents refused to give their consent and was on life support so the Dr submitted to the court that this was an infringement on the

child's right to life. So the courts said the Dr's can go ahead and give the blood as their private beliefs could not be allowed to override

the child's right to life and that the religiouis beliefs of the parents are not that of the child.

Elders then said "The sin is upon the doctors who gave the blood and not the parents or the child"

Oh cold can one be!! what a shame - shame on their god jah and shame on all the jw's! they should read their own bible -as they were about to sacrifice their child to baal.

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Possible Dub pickup line

by soutx in

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hey babe, how about you and me doing a -.

generation overlap

outforever

only clicked on now - really good lol a lot!!

milk v meat

hey I am tied of the milk give me meat anyday