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America Will Execute Brit Today.

by Englishman in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .

englishman.

144thousand_and_one

You stated: "I am embarrassed that our country has not only overwhelmingly embraced the death penalty, but has also elected a man who as Governor of Texas presided over more executions than any other governor in our history."
Your Inference here is...? what is your point here? I now use the word "implied" that goes with my use of "somehow".....

ThiChi,

Your original accusation follows:

You made the claim that Texas is somehow over killing the killers. You are just plain wrong. Your uninformed claims is what is really wasting space here. Please get your facts right....

My quote doesn't even come close to "implying" that "Texas is somehow over killing the killers." It appears that you might have left the JWs, but their teachings are still influencing your conduct. Similar to the JWs, you've tried to weasel out of your false statements, but this is an apostate board, and we won't let you do that here.

I won't respond further as there is no point debating with someone who fabricates statements, attributes them to me, and then responds to his own fabrication.

BTW, the Brit was executed. ThiChi, maybe you should hold a celebration for this loss of life, and you can revel in the emotional trauma presently being experienced by the decedent's relatives.

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America Will Execute Brit Today.

by Englishman in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .

englishman.

144thousand_and_one

If facts are boring to you, I understand.

The quotes you've posted are not facts, but opinion pieces that cite some facts to support their contentions. I can find lots of persuasive authority to the contrary of your posts, but I don't want to bore everyone with a bunch of bullshit like you have.

You made the claim that Texas is somehow over killing the killers. You are just plain wrong. Your uninformed claims is what is really wasting space here. Please get your facts right....

I made no such claim, what is the basis for this false accusation? Are you on drugs? As for getting facts right, since the readers on this board can't even trust you to restate what I have posted, they should view any other quotes from you with a healthy amount of skepticism.

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America Will Execute Brit Today.

by Englishman in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .

englishman.

144thousand_and_one

Thi Chi,

What's the relevance of the quote you posted in response to my post? It failed to address any of the points I made, but did waste space on Simon's board.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing is wrong, whether done by a criminal or the State. The State executioner is no better morally than those he dispatches.

BTW, the quotes are boring. I could also fill this board with information quoted from anti-death penalty sites, but why bother? It's boring to read, and isn't going to change anyone's opinion.

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America Will Execute Brit Today.

by Englishman in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .

englishman.

144thousand_and_one

Two wrongs don't make a right, and I am embarrassed that our country has not only overwhelmingly embraced the death penalty, but has also elected a man who as Governor of Texas presided over more executions than any other governor in our history.

Many people might question the propriety of the death penalty if they understood that justice has nothing to do with it. For example, OJ Simpson was charged with a "special circumstances" crime, multiple killings, that made him eligible for the death penalty. Marcia Clark, one of the attorneys who represented the State, stated that seeking the death penalty against OJ wouldn't be "just." Why not? Assuming he was guilty, no one could have been more deserving. This wasn't some poor kid robbing a store to feed his family, instead, it was a guy who had everything but was accused of killing anyway. No, it wasn't "just" because Ms. Clark knew that it would be hard for the public to stomach the killing of one of its heroes.

The reality is that capital defendants who lack money are at big disadvantage when fighting for their life against the goverment. The prosecution has unlimited investigative resources, while state funded defense budgets have extremely meager investigative resources and no access to the police as an investigative tool. Public defenders are overburdenened with an overload of cases and a shortage of personnel. The decision to seek the death penalty is entirely political and based on the district attorney's assessment of whether the death penalty could indeed be attained, notwithstanding issues of guilt or innocence. Poor folks are shit out of luck.

For those of you who think that executing innocent defendants is ok if there are only a few instances of it, I'm sure your opinion might be different if you or someone you love were one of those innocent individuals.

Arguments that jailing capital defendants for life is too costly simply don't make sense. The average cost of executing someone has been said to approximate $4 million per defendant. The cost of housing them runs about $30K/year. It's cheaper to jail them.

I have no pity for most of these defendants as I tend to believe they deserve what they get. Nevertheless, it's not about the scum we are executing, rather, it's about what we are allowing that scum to turn us into. Recent trends in this country indicate that the public opinion supporting the death penalty is starting to diminish, and I hope we continue on the path of evolving to a higher consciousness.

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Why love God?

by joelbear in

should we love god and have faith in him because we are afraid of being annihilated if we don't?.

should we love god so we can be paid for it by getting a "mansion in the sky" or everlasting life or some other reward payment?

144thousand_and_one

GD,

If God were female, she'd be Goddess. Of course God is male!!!!

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Thinking about sex at the meeting?

by gilwarrior in

when i went to the meetings, i couldn't concentrate, so i would daydream all the time.

i noticed that most of the time i would think about sex!

i would look at some of the young ladies and imagine having sex with them.

144thousand_and_one

The only thing I thought of at the meeting was "when the hell am I going to get out of here?" I used to look at the clock every 5 minutes. I didn't have a choice, my parents forced me to attend the programming sessions aka "meetings" and to slave away at marketing the corporation cult in "field service."

When I think of meetings, I think of a weird smell that came from some of the old people. The smell, coupled with the involuntary nature of my attendance, did nothing to make me think of sex. Instead, I pondered the environmental differences between the kingdom hall and an outhouse.

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wt 8/15/03: Easing Nature - Is it for Christians?

by Scully in

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easing nature is it for christians?

easing nature the very phrase itself brings to mind the odious product of this activity.

yet, many people have the understanding that this natural bodily function is a practice in which true christians may engage.

144thousand_and_one

"Life is a shit sandwich. The more bread you have, the easier the shit goes down your throat." -- unidentified vagrant, Huntington Beach, California, circa 1990

Thanks for the new light, Scully!

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Why love God?

by joelbear in

should we love god and have faith in him because we are afraid of being annihilated if we don't?.

should we love god so we can be paid for it by getting a "mansion in the sky" or everlasting life or some other reward payment?

144thousand_and_one

Love me all ya want, but be sure to irrevocably transfer all your assets into my offshore trust first. I'll let you keep the liabilities. I'll absorb all that negative energy from your earthly assets for your betterment.

I am the great I am.

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Has Anyone Invited You to the Memorial?

by Prisca in

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the memorial is on in just over two weeks' time, and i was wondering:.

has anyone invited you to the memorial yet?.

my old cong knows my address and phone number yet no-one has visited or phoned to invite me.

144thousand_and_one

The Memorial always lands on a full moon, and, if it's not raining, I always go mountain biking at night on full moon nights. It sure beats the piss wine and toe nail crackers they'll be serving to the living dead in attendance.

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SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

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dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Rhett,

Do you always have to have the last word? It's clear you can't get past the concept that a fetus is not a child, so debate is pointless.

Even though a certain other poster on here was able to do that even if they were too dense to understand that killing children is wrong.

Others here may indeed be "dense," but the poor grammar (e.g., the run-on sentence quoted above) you've exhibited on this board tends to make you appear somewhat illiterate.

We can't agree on abortion, so I won't debate it with you. I'm just happy that the majority of people in this country do not share your extremist views. Additionally, you've made statements in this thread that attempt to minimize the tragedy of the 9/11 attacks, and I don't care to debate with any individual who has an evil heart. Maybe someday you'll evolve to a higher consciousness, but for now, I don't see any difference between you and the freaks that case out abortion clinics with the intent of harming someone.

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