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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  2. child-abuse

  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Yeah, imagine conceding a point to someone who does NOT have any special legal background ... said the man with no special legal background.

  As this thread reveals, I called out Cedars for posting BS 10 years ago. My opinion of him at that time was that he was a grifter. My opinion of him hasn't changed much, but it certainly has gotten worse.

  I haven't posted on this site in quite a few years. I hope everyone is doing well and especially Simon and his family. Simon, you deserve a lot of credit for keeping this site going all these years. Thank you for all that you have done (and sacrificed) on behalf of the ex-JW community!
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  wt on education..

  by zeb in

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  2. friends

  i have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?

  it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!

  ) followed an interest in history and left the truth.

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  Education increases the likelihood that one will break away from this organization. This has a negative effect on cash flow, hence the Society's aversion to it. It's always about the money, and the organization is skilled at controlling its worker bees.
  
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  JW's arrogant as f...?!

  by Alostpuppydog in

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  2. experiences

  has anybody else noticed that almost all the jdubs are super arrogant?

  i mean even from just the basic ones to especially the elders and the overseers omg.

  they act like they are so high and mighty that you should just worship them.

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  BS. I'll be the last to support the Watchtower, but stereotyping all JWs as "arrogant" is wrong. Although I've been out of the "Truth" for more than 3 decades, I've maintained contacts with several JWS, and "arrogant" is not an adjective I would use to describe any of them. Rather than labeling them in a negative way, simply because I disagree with their religious views, I prefer to look at them as very nice people whose religious beliefs are substantially different than mine.

  
  
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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  Shunning thrives on the power you give it. Ignore the shunners, eventually they will beg you for attention.
  
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  It's been a long time since I've visited this site. Sorry to hear the news. RIP Grace!
  
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  Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

  beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

  i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

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  I give the Watchtower credit for introducing me to punk rock. Back in the mid 1970s, a special meeting was held to warn parents about the horrible new phenomenon of punk rock. A film strip was shown with images of the Sex Pistols. I had never heard of them before, but when the JWs advised that they are famous for singing about hate, while spitting, peeing, and puking on their audiences, I had their "Never Mind the Bullocks" album the next day. Of course, like the rest of the JW lies, the Pistols did not pee, spit, or vomit on their audience, so I was a bit disappointed as a rebellious teenager. I loved them and still enjoy their music from time to time.
  
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  Obama to speak from the Oval Office tonight (8:00 eastern)

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. current

  this will be only the 3rd time he's spoken from the oval office in his seven years so it's probably going to be something pretty big.

  combat troops being sent into syria?

  unilateral movement on gun control?.

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  I'm confident it will be more hollow words. "We have 'contained' ISIS such that they can only attack us here, on our soil."
  
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  Almost 60 years ago, The Watchtower made a prediction that has proven to be amazingly accurate.

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't posted for quite awhile, just usually lurk, but thought surely someone would have noticed this on jw.org.

  this was under the article about distractions.

  i clicked on the article and below is the "accurate" prediction that the wt made back in 1958. this has to prove they have jehovah's backing, don't you think?

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  I'm convinced! OK, no Christmas this year, kids!
  
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  Anybody have any "REAL" experiences of spirit/demon activity? I'll explain.

  by runForever in

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  i know there is a lot of people on here that will say it is pure make believe but i am interested if anybody has had any real concrete things happen such as something moving or something appearing in the mirror etc.. anything just post it up here even if it wasn't much.

  please give a little context as to the situation..

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  144thousand_and_one

  I've had some very odd experiences that were really freaky but could nevertheless still be explained via natural phenomena and/or coincidence. They did not convince me that any of man's conceptions of the spiritual world are true, but they did open my mind to the possibility that some sort of energy is out there that is higher than all of us. So I went from being an atheist to an agnostic. I believe that there may be a higher power, but that man has no concept of what it is or anything else about it. But just because man is ignorant of it, does not mean that it does not exist.
  
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  JW Threatened me with Violence Today :)

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i popped into the supermarket for a few things after work today and found myself walking up an aisle alongside a couple who used to be in my tuesday group.

  i see them reasonably often and always say hello much to their obvious annoyance.

  i noticed that ian was sporting a shaggy beard.

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  144thousand_and_one

  You have made the mistake of thinking I care about your opinion of me. Silly! . . . My sarcasm was for 144 001

  You can lie to yourself, Cofty, but you don't fool me. You obviously care about the opinions of others on this forum, hence your need to boast about your efforts to provoke hostility with Jehovah's Witnesses. You were looking for someone to pat you on the back and say, "good job, Cofty. You showed those JWs!" Sorry to disappoint you.