144thousand_and_one

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Because hes a fetishistic pervert with absolutely no respect for women other than as sexual objects.

  I have a similar idea. I don’t think he was being respectful to Kim when he shared his disgusting information with her.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The views indicate that roughly 1/10th of his total subs are actually active. And views aren’t that accurate either as some click on the video twice or more.

  Yes I did notice that he’s not getting the views that he used to get. I’m wondering what he was thinking when he shared damaging information with Kim. I believe that he did so intentionally in furtherance of an objective. The question is what was his objective?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I think he has always been like this, we just see his true colours more often now as he is being called out for his bs more 🤷‍♀️

  He still has over 100K followers on YouTube. That's amazing to me. His voice, appearance and content are nauseating.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The zeitgeist of the AAWA era was insane. At first everyone loved it and it was such a great intro video that Lloyd produced.
  Then Lloyd happened.

  I never understood the "AAWA" thing, but I guess that's because I never looked at anti-JW activism as a professional endeavor. I guess, in retrospect, I was naive as to the potential for monetizing anti-JW activism. As for Lloyd, I never had an ounce of respect for him at any time. I believed him to be a dishonest POS when I first came across him, and my opinion of him has never improved, but has certainly gotten much worse.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I recall the "AAWA" scandal from about a decade ago. I've always thought of this slob as having the maturity of a teenager who is going out of his way to be noticed. At the end of the day, he was everything the Watchtower ever could have hoped for. A prominent opposer outed as a pervert is now being used as a tool of the WT to stereotype all former JWs as liars who are absolutely devoid of morals.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  144thousand_and_one

  LOL @ Malvinas,

  Great artwork!
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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  Good evening Kim,

  Thank you for the nice post! Also, big thanks for having the guts to stand up for what you believe in!!! It took lots of guts to do what you did, so I'm a fan.

  Lloyd had no qualifications, no experience, hadn’t been out of the borg long at that point, clearly made provable errors yet people continued to believe him and thanking him for the “valuable information” - even over the qualified/fact driven proof.

  It is easy for someone who has no idea about the subject he is lecturing Talking about, sure I understand that, but why did they listen to his “brand of facts” over that of others?

  I'm not an expert in any pertinent psychological/psychiatric discipline, so I can only answer from my own experience. I think a lot of folks come to these ex-jw forums because they've experienced emotional trauma as a result of their exposure to the JWs. As a likely result of their emotional trauma, they have a propensity to pursue any avenue to express their anger against the WT, or otherwise lash out, and a much lesser ability/drive to question others who are lashing out / attacking the same enemy. They abandon their objectivity in satisfaction of their drive to settle a score with the WT.

  Remember, many of the folks in these forums were gullible enough to become JWs as adults. P.T. Barnum said it best, "there's one born every minute."
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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  Yeah, imagine conceding a point to someone who does NOT have any special legal background ... said the man with no special legal background.

  As this thread reveals, I called out Cedars for posting BS 10 years ago. My opinion of him at that time was that he was a grifter. My opinion of him hasn't changed much, but it certainly has gotten worse.

  I haven't posted on this site in quite a few years. I hope everyone is doing well and especially Simon and his family. Simon, you deserve a lot of credit for keeping this site going all these years. Thank you for all that you have done (and sacrificed) on behalf of the ex-JW community!
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  wt on education..

  by zeb in

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  i have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?

  it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!

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  Education increases the likelihood that one will break away from this organization. This has a negative effect on cash flow, hence the Society's aversion to it. It's always about the money, and the organization is skilled at controlling its worker bees.
  
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  JW's arrogant as f...?!

  by Alostpuppydog in

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  has anybody else noticed that almost all the jdubs are super arrogant?

  i mean even from just the basic ones to especially the elders and the overseers omg.

  they act like they are so high and mighty that you should just worship them.

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  144thousand_and_one

  BS. I'll be the last to support the Watchtower, but stereotyping all JWs as "arrogant" is wrong. Although I've been out of the "Truth" for more than 3 decades, I've maintained contacts with several JWS, and "arrogant" is not an adjective I would use to describe any of them. Rather than labeling them in a negative way, simply because I disagree with their religious views, I prefer to look at them as very nice people whose religious beliefs are substantially different than mine.