Once you get in you must marry a brother, not just a brother, but one with good stand. What gonna happen if you reject somebody who pursue you? Think through everything before taking any action, it's easy way in hard way out.
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Feeling rejected
by Esmeralda001 injust a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.
however, i'm in the process of becoming one.
in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.
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More Anointed Join the ranks
by paulmolark inwhen i was an elder we had a sister who was known for providing oral pleasures to some people in the congo.
i was on the committee.
this girl for some odd reason was put on public reproof 4 times for the same thing.
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Exerps, Conversation/Debate with a close old friend still in the Borg. Comments please!
by dark angle inpart 1. .
she was suspecting me that i'm no longer interested in the borg, and she was trying to get a confession.
this is how our conversation went out.
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you know the organization has never claimed to be INSPIRED by God.
Being Gods organization without being inspired by him, I found this is incredible. Only in these recent years the governing body began to say that they are not inspired by God, because there's no other options left for them, all their prophacies and promises have come to a dead end, they cannot go anywhere if they don't say so.
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Not on JW.org : Jehovah's Witness murder covered on Discovery Investigation Wed 8/20/2014
by Balaamsass2 in9:00 pm.
60 min.. deadly devotion (season 2)witness to murdertv-14 cc.
kim anderson, a divorced mother of two and devout jehovahs witness, finally finds the man of her dreams.
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alwaysthinking
you know what, i used to tell a sister that there was a show that a murder case was related to a witness someway, and she rightaway fought back said all the medias were lying, actually in that show the name jehovahs witness was mentioned just once or twice for the sake of the story line never been a topic or a focus in that case. No matter what they saw what they heard anything that are against JW would be considered absolute false.
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Not on JW.org : Jehovah's Witness murder covered on Discovery Investigation Wed 8/20/2014
by Balaamsass2 in9:00 pm.
60 min.. deadly devotion (season 2)witness to murdertv-14 cc.
kim anderson, a divorced mother of two and devout jehovahs witness, finally finds the man of her dreams.
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This poor woman and her children were murdered a full four years before I made an escape from my abusive jw husband. The elders counseled me to return to him, the one who was threatening to kill me. They even reassured me that I'd be guaranteed a spot in the new system through resurrection if he did kill me. And to think that although these elders may not have known about this case, the organization that they served certainly did.
Thankfully, "worldly" people such as my co-workers, boss, a judge, and psychiatrist helped to have my jw husband forcibly committed to a mental hospital, so I had time to get away from him. I received no help from any of the Jehovah's Witnesses, even my family.
Another quote from Jamie, what do you think of this? They even reassured me that I'd be guaranteed a spot in the new system through resurrection if he did kill me.😜😱
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Not on JW.org : Jehovah's Witness murder covered on Discovery Investigation Wed 8/20/2014
by Balaamsass2 in9:00 pm.
60 min.. deadly devotion (season 2)witness to murdertv-14 cc.
kim anderson, a divorced mother of two and devout jehovahs witness, finally finds the man of her dreams.
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The program did get some details wrong about the Jehovah's Witnesses. Mostly things like terminology that Witnesses don't use (like "rapture"), a generic Bible instead of their New World Translation, outright saying that Jehovah told them this or that. The Witness organization is careful not to make blatant statements like that. But they did in fact strongly suggest and want everyone to believe that Armageddon would come in 1975 or very shortly thereafter. They praised people who sold houses and property to spend the "short remaining time in this old system" in the full-time service (door-to-door preaching). Then when Armageddon didn't come in 1975, they said that "some individuals" read more into their writings and public discourses than was really meant. But there are recordings of talks by Circuit and District Overseers at several conventions in the early 70's where the speaker clearly said, "Brothers, we have a new date for Armageddon." You can still find these recordings on the internet.
Then there are other details in the episode that aren't exactly right. For example, Jim certainly never sent his wife out for cigarettes. No smoker can be a Witness in good standing. They are usually disfellowshipped when caught. All that said, the gist of the program was correct. Women are to be in subjection to their husbands, and even abused women are strongly "encouraged" to stay with their husbands in the hope he will reform. Disobeying the advice of the elders gets one marked as rebellious and any "privileges" one had in the congregation would be revoked. And there must be two witnesses to things like child abuse or the congregation will take no action other than notify the authorities, and only then if that particular state requires it, and even then they are instructed to report it anonymously. The victim and their family, while not prevented from reporting the abuse themselves, are strongly warned not to talk about the abuse to other Witnesses or the press, for fear of "bringing reproach" on Jehovah's name or worse, the Organization. And of course the congregation is never warned about the abuser by name unless he or she winds up disfellowshipped. Even then, the announcement simply says "So-and-So is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses."
It is true that the Society does not condone family-murder and nobody told Anderson that it was ok to do such a vile deed. In fact, the program left out part of the story where the local Elders had found, confiscated, and turned over the police a sawed-off shotgun Anderson had had months before. The police warned him that such weapons were illegal in Canada. He simply bought another one shortly before the murders and sawed off its barrel too. But the whole point of the program was to show that Jehovah's Witness women in particular are so controlled and dominated by the Elders that they are almost forced to heed their well-meaning but uninformed and unprofessional advice in every situation, even to their own detriment and even in cases of physical abuse. To reject that advice has dire consequences to anyone who wants to remain a Jehovah's Witness in good standing.
A point that most people may miss is that there is no way one can leave the Organization with honor. Almost like the Mafia. Once in, you're in, unless kicked out. If you leave for any reason, including a simple disagreement about spiritual matters or Organizational policy, you will be shunned and no faithful Witness, even close relatives (unless actually living in the same household), will speak to you. Divorced Witnesses, regardless of the original grounds, are particularly cautioned to severely limit contact between the children and their disfellowshipped parent. If anyone wants more details on this particular case, check out James Kostelniuk's book "Wolves Among Sheep." Kostelniuk was the ex-husband of Kim and the father of the murdered children. He explains, far more eloquently than I ever could, just how the atmosphere among the Jehovah's Witness community greatly contributed to this tragedy.
this is quote from discovery investigation channel comments
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Persecution in Russia. Poland next.
by FadeToBlack inthe wife got back from the meeting last night and told me they watched some video from jw.org about persection in russia.
lots of discussion at the hall about poland being next after ukraine.
she told me she was not going to sign anything renouncing her faith even if she had to go to prison.
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alwaysthinking
Tell your wife that the Watchtower doesn't have a good track record of correct predict lsk your wife to name even ONE correct prediction they have made regarding world events.
good idea.
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Assembly:Symposium:Who will not inherit God's Kingdom:"Idolaters
by raymond frantz inlol!
typing that while at the assembly, the benefits of technology.this theme is about idolatry.
the watchtower explains what is idolatry.
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Lol😜
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very well said!
by alwaysthinking insome dates are important to set, like weddings, retirement parties, and vacations, but not the date of the return of jesus.
jesus said that "no one knows.
" i've never really understood why something so direct and so simple could be so abused.. quoted from http://god-and-logic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/05/where-is-promise-of-his-coming.html.
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So to clear it up, once and for all, let's do this simple little test:
1. Are you God?
--- if yes, then stop, YOU can know.
--- if no, continue to next question.
2. Are you an angel?
--- if yes, then stop, YOU CAN'T KNOW
--- if no, continue to next question
3. Are you a human?
--- if yes, then stop, YOU CAN'T KNOW
--- if no, then STOP, you are clearly confused.
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very well said!
by alwaysthinking insome dates are important to set, like weddings, retirement parties, and vacations, but not the date of the return of jesus.
jesus said that "no one knows.
" i've never really understood why something so direct and so simple could be so abused.. quoted from http://god-and-logic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/05/where-is-promise-of-his-coming.html.
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Some dates are important to set, like weddings, retirement parties, and vacations, but not the date of the return of Jesus. Ever. Jesus said that "NO ONE knows." I've never really understood why something so direct and so simple could be so abused.
quoted from http://god-and-logic.blogspot.co.nz/2011/05/where-is-promise-of-his-coming.html
