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i commented about how the 2008 yearbook gives the story of a girl who is on estonia idol and gives up an opportunity to progress to further rounds because she has a talk on the theocratic ministry school.

when jws started to study with her, that is the day the music died.. .

while watching the grammys, though most was trash the music from the 70s was great, i thought, what if paul mccartney's parents studied with jws and paul didn't become a musician.

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No one puts it better than Steve Hassaan.

Hassan’s Criteria for Mind Control

Steven Hassan is a leading American Exit Counsellor who authored Combatting Cult Mind Control (1990); now a standard text for understanding the tactics and influences of the cults (Hassan & Das, n.d.). He believes that cults try to suppress people’s distinct individual freedom by suppressing their free will, talents, creativity and ability to think for themselves. The ultimate goal of indoctrination and gradual dissociation is to make unique individuals into ‘clones’ that fit the cult’s mould or, theologically speaking, to re-mould people bearing God’s image to people reflecting the image of the cult leader/s.

More brilliant and essential reading over on Freeminds for those who seek to liberate themselves from these cloning techniques. The best discussion and analysis of the subject that I have ever read anywhere.

A Study of the Persuasion Techniques Used by Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower

http://freeminds.org/psych/beel.htm

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Cosmetics are poisoning your body...Antiperspirants are listed as a DRUG!

by Witness 007 in

when you buy anti-bacterial products they contain triclosan which in one test was found in the blood of 70% of american patients tested.

it is a carcinogen and banned in some places.

anti perspirants are listed by the fda as "a drug" not a cosmetic.

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Make your own soap..

http://www.ecopedia.com/how-to/how-to-make-chemical-free-soap/

and deoderant..

http://wellnessmama.com/1523/how-to-make-natural-deodorant-beating-the-b-o-with-natural-deo/

toothpaste..

http://www.diynatural.com/homemade-toothpaste/

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Imagine A World Where Being "Gay" The Norm & Being "Straight" Would Be The Minority!

by Dis-Member in

imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!

[short film].. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.

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Dis-member, we have heard enough of your homophobic statements, you know nothing about gay people. I suggest you find another discussion forum to pollute.

I'm sorry but that is such an idiotic statement I won't even respond to it. You have just proved my point. Hateful as usual. Forgive me for not agreeing with or accepting your viewpoint. Your attitude and ignorance is far more offensive than your lifestyle. It's a gross weakness on your part to see even a discussion of the subject as an attack. It's not.

I shot a civil partnership ceremony for a very high ranking member of a certain Royal family. My 3rd in fact. Is that gay enough for you?

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The day the music died

by Rattigan350 in

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i commented about how the 2008 yearbook gives the story of a girl who is on estonia idol and gives up an opportunity to progress to further rounds because she has a talk on the theocratic ministry school.

when jws started to study with her, that is the day the music died.. .

while watching the grammys, though most was trash the music from the 70s was great, i thought, what if paul mccartney's parents studied with jws and paul didn't become a musician.

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Yep, and not just music. No musicians, no painters, no designers, no inventors, no writers, no dancers, no sculptors, no explorers, no mountain climbers, no artists, no developing talents or natural gifts of any kind to any significant level.

Imagine a whole world full of people like this. A lifeless, colourless, artless, creativeless black and white existence where one size fits all. Same clothes, same suits, same haircuts, same bags, same speech, same severely limited life experience, same views, same stock phrase vocabulary and expression from reading all the same brain numbing books and having the same non-education.

Awful society.

I can think of far better examples than the Beatles to represent musical talent but hey..

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Rap song about -----------------------Apostates

by Watchtower-Free in

this deluded jw on youtube sent me this link with a message .

"turn back to jehovah".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6919cndlrk.

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Some peope should not be allowed to meddle with music.

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Survival and Preparedness--What Are You Doing, Or Going To Do?

by CrimsonBleu in

it's been a long time since i posted here, but i lurk often, checking in on things in the jw world.

i have been out for 25 years, but have family still in.

none of them speak to me anymore, even though they used to quite often and quite regular, breaking all the shunning rules.

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Survival tip No. 17

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interview with an apostate: BIGMAC

by bigmac in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren.

were you a born in or a convert?.

.not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother.

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The do not qualify in any sense of the word..

Char·i·ty

noun

1. the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.
2. an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need.

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The kindness of (worldly) strangers

by moley in

yesterday i went surfing, when i had finished and got changed i tried to start my car, no joy.

there were about 12 cars in the car park and the occupants of 8 of the cars all tried to help out at some point as they could see i was having difficulties, one guy even drove to a garage 5 miles away to get me a coffee i didn't even ask for as it was a freezing cold day and a couple of them let me sit in their cars to warm up while i waited for the rac.

contrast this to a time when i was in and my car wouldn't start (different car lol) in a kh car park and all i got was snarky comments, or advice in passing but no one stopped to help out.. i know who i prefer, has anyone else been helped by the evil worldly's while ignored by the loving jw's.

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Worldly people..

When I was 18 and got my first little motorbike, I had the adventurous idea of riding from London to Scotland and back. Being an over excited youth with poor planning I set off with not enough funds and by Leeds I had ran out of petrol.. and money.

Complete strangers at each gas station from Leeds to Scotland and all the way back to London very generously kept topping up my tank so I could complete my trip and then make it all the way home to London.

In Yorkshire one Sunday morning I was parked in a little village and I heard a voice from the 1st floor of a cottage window shout: "Hello! Are you hungry?" A minute or two later they came out to the street holding a very large plate of Sunday roast! and handed it to me.

On that same trip I set up my tent in a large forest on a dirt track. At about 6am I was woken to the sound of a chain saw and trees crashing down around me. It was a lumberjack who without a word cut down 2 trees one behind and one in front of my tent so as to prevent me from being run over and crushed by the big logger trucks that were transporting logs from the forest.

Witnesses..

In my first congregation when I first came into the truth at 18 and had been studying for a year my mother actually threw me out of the house because of my 'stand for the truth'. I told the congregation of my situation and despite now being homeless not a single person came to my assistance or offered to help or support me in any way whatsoever.

Winter time: I used to have to do a 3 mile walk to the hall and back twice a week to get to the meetings often in pouring rain or almost a foot of snow. I had several large families of witnesses that lived but a minute from my home that would just drive past me in their large half empty cars and just smile and wave but never offer me a lift.

Once I had to go into hospital for an operation. I told the surgeon of my view and stand on the blood issue. He informed me that there could be complications and problems if I refused the possibility of a blood transfusion. I stood my ground. I woke from the operation with a tube of what looked like blood going into my shoulder where they performed the surgery. Still dazed from the anesthetic I ripped it out. The nurse came running and told me it was not a transfusion but simply a tube to catch and drain the blood and fluid from my wound.

During my few days in the hospital followed by 6 weeks at home of rehabilitation. I was not supported by or even visited by a single person in the congregation. I was left to deal with this 'no blood' situation completely alone. I was 19 years old. And yes during all these experiences I was pioneering.

So.. yes I have been shown more kindness, hospitality, generosity compassion and love from complete non-witness strangers than I ever have by my so called spiritual brothers and sisters.