I think everyone is a bit confused. Do what you think is best.
Take care..
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I am Back on JWN and out of hospital
by KateWild inhey everyone,.
thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.
thanks cofty for wondering where i was.
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Terry is right. We let God slide....
by DATA-DOG inthere were many great comments on the " theist/suffering" thread, but terry's really caught my eye.
its the simplest way to describe what believers do.
we simply give the "god" of the bible a free pass.
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Very good point DATA-DOG. There is no easy answer to this at all.
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I am Back on JWN and out of hospital
by KateWild inhey everyone,.
thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.
thanks cofty for wondering where i was.
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Hello there Sam! Glad you are feeling better and are back home from the hospital..
Why go back to meetings if you don't even believe in it and don't want to get reinstated? If the elders too know that what is then the point of putting yourself through al the shunning that will most definitely follow? Are you ready for that? -
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Open challenge to "Dr" Rolf Furuli and Greg Stafford - DEBATE.
by Focus into me af's.
see below for more on af.
"prominent" (lol!
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Focus your anger on those responsible for formulating the policies, not those once taken in by them who have now changed their minds.
There may be a point that most are missing here. True the majority here have changed their minds and beliefs and no longer adhere to WT practices.. this does not mean they are not responsible and completely innocent ('I was just following orders' or 'I was duped') for what they spent years and often decades teaching and promoting in the past. All the shunning they too willingly did.. all the committees they (elders) were part of.. all the poor children and whole families they raised in the Borg with iron resolve. All the people they preached to and also duped and deceived with what they now claim they themselves were duped and deceived with.
As those responsible for formulating the policies are no longer alive It could be that Focus is taking issue with those here (right or wrong) that were the foot soldiers for and took a great part in this 'work'.
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Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think?
by disposable hero of hypocrisy inwe are up for a new kind of persecution in the future.
a new form that was unheard of for us.
in australia, disfellowshipped and dissasociated are planning on suing jw for emotional and mental hardship for being cast out completely.
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The only persecution, grief, pain, sadness, disappointment, gossip, slander, betrayal and suffering I ever experienced in my relatively short time as a witness came all from inside the kingdom hall and at the hand of other witnesses.
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The people i least get along with are EX- J.Ws
by new hope and happiness ini am not talking about posters here on this board ( otherwise i wouldn't be here would i) but in general.. si i am talking those ex j.ws in my community and we just dont get on.
well ok its a bit of an exaggeration to say i don't get on with them, we just dont associate.
this botherd me at first as i thought we would have much in common, but it wasn't so, and it's just the way it is.
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This seems quite normal and even common to me. I know of whole and entire families whose only connecting bond was that they all had the same parents and were raised in the same families. In time when those parents passed away.. the family members exploded, fragmented, and all went their separate ways deciding that none of them in fact even liked each other or really ever got along or had anything in common. As with blood families, all your associations in the org are not really chosen by you but rather given to you as a result of being in that religion.
Of the people that were my closest friends/associates/peers etc in the org when I was younger I'd say over 40 of them are no longer in 'the truth', either they were disfellowshipped, turned apostate, turned mad or whatever. Am I still friends or even in contact with any of them? Not a single one. Would I like to be? To be honest.. not really. -
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Jehovah's Witnesses destroyed documents showing child abuse allegations against church elder
by burnedout inmark sewell convicted of eight historic sex charges, including rape.
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i can not copy the link, but go to walesonline.co.uk.
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Yes they apparently clean all records after a certain period of time. I was away for 26 years. When I went back not only was there no record of me ever having been disfellowshipped there was also no record of me being baptised. All the new cong had to go on was my own word.
My complete existence had been purged from all records and many of the people that new me were dead and gone or with evaporated memories.
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New Member Story
by No Retreat No Surrender inwhen i found out "ttat" i felt like muhammad ali when joe frazer knocked him down in their first fight in the 15th round.
the ref came over grab my gloves and looked me in the eyes and asked me "are you ok, can you continue" and then gave me the standing 8 count.
no it didn't knock me out but it staggered me.
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Wow.. Thank you for sharing your story No Surrender. It takes a lot to break the ice and pen your first expressions on your life and experience.
Wish you all the best.
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You heard about the fate of Pussies. Now here is what awaits PUPPIES
by Focus inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/281227/1/watchtower-to-ban-pussies-july-14-this-is-not-good.
http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/armageddon_art.html.
http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/paradise_lost_2.html.
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Lol. You have quite some time on your hands, Focus.
But that's just it.. he doesn't because this took him about 49 seconds to sketch together.
Any other normal mortal would require a least a week plus 3 shifts in the library and plenty of time on their hands. Don't let the apathy of others dampen your glow Focus.
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John Lydon knew about Saville, and tried to speak out in 1978
by cantleave inthis interview was a held back by the bbc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjy8olvovi4.
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Bang on the button..