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What happy, wonderful thing happened to you since you left the "truth"?

by Jeannette in

more than one thing for me, but i have learned to enjoy festivals, and just enjoying free time.

it's not that the org wouldn't allow it, i just felt i shouldn't.

there are others, of course, and i really have been happier and good things have come my way since i left.

Dis-Member

As above...

I can stay home and play my jazz guitar every morning now instead of standing alone at the subway station a 6am with Awake magazines in my hand being completey ignored for 4 hours..

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Do as we say not as we do.. (or spiritual hypocrites to those in the trade.)

by Dis-Member in

when i first started 'pioneering' at aged 19 i was encouraged by my so called spiritual leaders(elders) to do window cleaning.

which i did but could never make enough to support myself, so i had to take a second part time job which was also a cleaner at a primary school.

i was always broke and always poor.. what never really clicked with me until many years after leaving was that none of these so called elder spiritual guides did window cleaning or pioneered themselves.. in fact they did the very opposite and lived very full and rich lives.. one ran his own building firm and dealt with milt-million pound contracts, another had his own very successful double glazing business, another was some kind of mechanical engineer who worked for some big multi-national organisation, another was a chemical engineer, another owned and ran his own very busy printing firm.

Dis-Member

sorry for the unhappiness.

That was a very long time ago Disposable but thank you. I was just reminiscing. I am now a qualified network engineer and I.T Specialist, also a professional photographer and professional musician. If I push myself I can earn $650 an hour. Not too long ago I sold a single image for $2,500. I came very close to selling 6 images for $26,000 to a very large corporation. Sooner or later I'll clinch that deal.

My total time 'in' the org adds up to less than 3 years. I can only imagine what people must feel like who have spent their entire lives in there. What a terrifying thought!

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Do as we say not as we do.. (or spiritual hypocrites to those in the trade.)

by Dis-Member in

when i first started 'pioneering' at aged 19 i was encouraged by my so called spiritual leaders(elders) to do window cleaning.

which i did but could never make enough to support myself, so i had to take a second part time job which was also a cleaner at a primary school.

i was always broke and always poor.. what never really clicked with me until many years after leaving was that none of these so called elder spiritual guides did window cleaning or pioneered themselves.. in fact they did the very opposite and lived very full and rich lives.. one ran his own building firm and dealt with milt-million pound contracts, another had his own very successful double glazing business, another was some kind of mechanical engineer who worked for some big multi-national organisation, another was a chemical engineer, another owned and ran his own very busy printing firm.

Dis-Member

When I first started 'pioneering' at aged 19 I was encouraged by my so called spiritual leaders(elders) to do window cleaning. Which I did but could never make enough to support myself, so I had to take a second part time job which was also a cleaner at a primary school. I was always broke and always poor.

What never really clicked with me until many years after leaving was that none of these so called elder spiritual guides did window cleaning or pioneered themselves.

In fact they did the very opposite and lived very full and rich lives.

One ran his own building firm and dealt with milt-million pound contracts, another had his own very successful double glazing business, another was some kind of mechanical engineer who worked for some big multi-national organisation, another was a chemical engineer, another owned and ran his own very busy printing firm. In actual fact almost all of them were either directors and owners of their own companies or had very senior positions and high paying salaries in worldly organisations. Those that ran their own businesses all employed other pioneering brothers or sisters and paid them all a meagre wage for working hard and long hours.

All of them were married, had numerous children, owned their own beautifully furnished 3 to 5 bedroom homes, all wore quality and immaculately tailored suits, owned multiple cars (which they used to drive past me while waving in foul weather while I walked the 6 miles to and from hall) and took their families on several holidays a year which explained the constant healthy tanned complexions. Their also immaculately dressed kids were the first to have cars the moment they left school and were old enough to drive.. they walked straight into the best jobs in other brothers businesses, and had their dating and marriages arranged by and with the cream of the congregation and were the constant stars in all demonstrations on the platform.

Yet they constantly encouraged and steered me into remaining single and forget all thoughts of dating, become a full time preacher and maybe missionary, ride a bicycle everywhere in all weathers, get my clothes from second hand shops and be menial cleaner to support myself as it would make God and Jesus very pleased with me. Yet somehow I was still not good enough to ever date anyone's daughter or to be invited anywhere. I'd say these people made the few years I spent with them the saddest, most lonely, depressing and miserable I have ever experienced in my entire life. I have kept detailed diaries since I was 13 years old.. and if I read what I wrote during that period you would think I was about to commit suicide such was my heart rupturing sadness and misery.

It I had remained there with those people, as a single person with no family in the organisation I would have condemned myself to a life of utter loneliness, abject poverty and complete social rejection even in the congregation for being a broke ass nothing orphan.

How on earth could we ever put ourselves in a situation where we allowed to be manipulated and wrestled from our grasp total power and control of our lives, if we date, if we marry, who we marry, when we marry, what work we do, how we dress, how we speak, how we think, how we feel, who and the very definition of what we are even to some overweight, lazy, privileged self-important hypocrites?

Dam...

The best thing I ever did was leave and get as far from these life crippling, brain dumbing, talent killing exploitative pretenders and impostors as possible and liberate myself from what could only be described as a form of modern slavery.

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Spirituality is innate!

by Pinku in

on seeing the horrifying scene of world trade centre being attacked and knowing the pain of those trapped in and their loved ones, not only in new york but across the world millions of people turned into silence, prayer, and meditation.

they gathered on the streets, lit candles, wrote condolence, anything to feel solidarity and to spread a wave of love.

churches, temples, mosques and retreat centers were flooded with people seeking to raise their consciousness beyond the senseless killing to a higher, more noble plane.

Dis-Member

Didn't work though did it. That so called spiritual collectivity and conciousness has not improved the world one single tiny bit. In fact since 9/11 the world is a far more dangerous and wicked place then it's ever been. Just watch the news.

Collective thinking what ever it's form does nothing at all. Think of the billions of people every day willing and wishing to be rich. Yet the wealth of the world remains firmly in the hands of the !%.

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They can deny they are a cult as much as they like but their own printed history reveals the true nature of the Watchtower.

by nicolaou in

this is a very familiar quote to many of us but try reading it as if you are 'joe public'.

doesn't it just scream, cult!.

7 only jehovah's witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd", as a united organization under the protection of the supreme organizar, have any scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by satan the devil.. the watchtower october 1st 1989 page 19. remaining organised for survival into the millenium.

Dis-Member

And now they are saying the complete opposite..

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/

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Found my old baptism photo!

by nicolaou in

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Dis-Member

Dis' I appreciate the effort but I can't actually see anything.

Specksavers? How good is your vision?

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Found my old baptism photo!

by nicolaou in

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Dis-Member

Cleaned it up a bit for you..

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1200 requests for bible study a day

by purrpurr in

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apparently the .org site is getting 1200 bible study requests per day.

well that's what they claim anyway.

dos anyone think this is true?.

Dis-Member

1,200?

Is that all?

To org folk those numbers may seem like something to shout about. Until you peel off the WT blinkers and step out into the real world.

Here's some real world numbers to think about.

EMINEM has 94,398,773 individual people following his face book page..

Rhiana: 85,001,512

Shakira: 81,096,090

Christiano Ronaldo: 72,775,745

Lady Gaga: 67,374,921

Just the 5 individual above have almost 400 million individual fans between them.

Even the Simpsons which is a cartoon for goodness sake has ten times more followers at 70,045,642 in 25 years than the Org has in 130.

Roughly 3,703,064,798 people on this planet believe in a God. Only 7 million of that number claim to believe in the God as taught by the Jehovah's Witnesses. What does that say?

So, apart from having the status of published the most unread copies of any magazine in history (I wonder what environmental damage this cost in terms of trees..) the Org and it's boastful census I mean stat keeping is merely an inaudible blip in the numbers game.

One crummy Christmas pop song by a hot chick in a short skirt can generate greater stats in a weekend.

I feel so many here are just paying this org all way too much importance.

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Only 1 out of 6 JWs (and friends) visit the JW.ORG web site!

by StephaneLaliberte in

in a 2013 article currently on jw.org (reference 1), the jws bragged about how their website is translated into 300 languages and that it reaches, according to alexa statistics, 890,000 unique users every day.. what about the monthly stats?

the site websitetrafficspy.com (reference 2), which draws its statistics from alexa, reports that there are an estimated 3.2 million unique visitors every month for jw.org.*.

since the 2013 memorial had an attendance of 19.2 million (reference 3), this could be understood as 1/6 of the jws and their friends visited the site on a monthly basis.. this is not unexpected as the internet itself is used only by 39% of the planet at this time (reference 4).. hence, the number of languages in which the website is translated does not offer any guaranty as to its information being accessed or even be accessible at all to most of the planets population.. .

Dis-Member

If a household has only one computer with 4 active members, they will all be counted as one unique visitor. So, I believe this should balance out.

I'm not so sure it balances out. We are not in the 80's where technology is a rare luxury any more. Nowadays practically every single mobile phone has an internet connection and almost everyone has a phone. Even homeless people have mobile phones.

I myself have about 6 devices that can connect to the net. If I used each one 3 times in one day to access the site I'd be counted 18 times. That's 540 times a month! Now we can see how their figures can be manipulated to kingdom come.

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GB Gerrit Losch and his questionable article in the 7/14 WT study edition!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

in this article gerrit talks about his father in the first and last paragraphs, what he says about him and his hope for him goes against all that witnesses have preached about the worldly for the last 100 years... as i recall aren't all the worldly supposed to be destroyed and never have a hope of everlasting life like jw's are, and isn't that the purpose of the preaching work to baptize and warn the worldly of this???

if not why do jws even preach, or even become jws in the first place if all have a hope of everlasting life, jw and non-jw, are they releasing a little hint at new light to come???

or am i just missing or over analyzing something?.

Dis-Member

BTW: 'There is to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (those heretofore unacquainted with God's will).'

Then that can include just about anyone and everyone as no one at all knows what God's will is. What we think God's will is entirely based upon heresay and simply the words and opinion of another person. That is not knowing God's will.