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Thank you Terry this is really brilliant! Except that using Google Docs somehow causes the formatting to go completely awol and askew and for some reason the document is peppered with a whole series of hyperlinks that lead nowhere.

Is there any chance you could create a simple Word version as I'd love to pass this on to some mental health practitioners?

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Arguably the best debunker on YouTube

by Terry in

this fellow's channel is called watchtower examination.. he is clear, reasonable, thoughtful--but best of all--his teaching method with visuals is perfection!.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcep7v1i1o.

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Thank you Terry for delivering my monthly dose of anti-cult and anti BS medicine..

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Any Guitar Players Out there?

by WillowTrees in

jw
friends

i'm trying to understand which chords these are, in terms of piano.

it's off helmets song "blacktop".

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But I was not aware or exposed to them until I heard Van Halen.

The first hit song built around power chords was The Kinks's "You Really Got Me" released in 1964 (Walser 1993, p.9):

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Any Guitar Players Out there?

by WillowTrees in

jw
friends

i'm trying to understand which chords these are, in terms of piano.

it's off helmets song "blacktop".

|-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| play x 3 | pm................................................... play x 4 outro |-------------------------|-----------------| |-------------------------|-----------------| |-------------------------|-----------------| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| play x 12* |.

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I don't think they existed back in the 60's

Or as you infer whether they exist at all.

These chords including the so called 'power chords' are as old as tertial harmony itself and have been in use for going on 500 years. Certainly long before '70's pop & rock' musicians think they invented them. These are not even true power chords if such a thing even exists. True power chords consist of just a root, a 5th and usually a second stacked root an octave higher.

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Theorists are divided on whether a power chord can be considered a chord in the traditional sense, with some requiring a 'chord' to contain a minimum of three degrees of the scale. When the same interval is found in traditional and classical music, it would not usually be called a "chord", and may be considered to be a dyad (separated by an interval ). However, the term is accepted as a pop and rock music term, most strongly associated with the overdriven electric guitar styles of hard rock , heavy metal , punk rock , and similar genres. The use of the term "power chord" has, to some extent, spilled over into the vocabulary of other instrumentalists, such as keyboard and synthesizer players.

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Any Guitar Players Out there?

by WillowTrees in

jw
friends

i'm trying to understand which chords these are, in terms of piano.

it's off helmets song "blacktop".

|-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-------------------------------------------|---------------------| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| |-7--7--7-7-3--3--3-3-5--5--5-5-5-0-0-0-0-0-|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-| play x 3 | pm................................................... play x 4 outro |-------------------------|-----------------| |-------------------------|-----------------| |-------------------------|-----------------| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| |-0-0-0-/7--3-3-0-3-4-5~~-|-6-5-3-0-3-5-3-0-| play x 12* |.

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Although drop D is the obvious clue and the simple single finger power bar chords, the actual harmony is just a series of stacked perfect 4ths (possible Root, perfect 4th and flattened 7th) This could even be interpreted in a very modern 'out there' jazz style in the style of Mccoy Tyner. (John Coltrane's piano player). I love these chords.. I find their inherent instability and dissonance very satisfying.

Played at the 5th fret any of these could be the chord name: