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  Are you a different person now from when you were a JW?

  by NaruNaruChan in

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  i got an e-mail today from an old high school friend who, after we met for coffee, said "wow, you're normal again!

  i mean, you were boring, stuffy, and generally not much fun when you became a jw.

  now you're back to the old so-and-so that i remember, i love it!

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Has anyone else experienced that since you left?

  Oh, Yeah!

  NO ONE controls me anymore. I am less judgmental, much more open, and accepting of anything people want to believe.

  Me, too.
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  When a JW Comes to My Door?

  by JamesThomas in

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  a resent thread has got me thinking.

  the question is: when a jw comes to my door what reaction of mine would have the best chance of motivating that person to ponder or question their beliefs?

  what will help them open, rather than shut down and fortify their shell of exclusivity?

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  My favorite reply is something along the lines of "My conscience just wouldn't let me be a JW anymore after all the wrongdoing I knew of that didn't get taken care of the way it was supposed to"...then when I get the old "wait on Jehovah" response, I come back with, "When I was attending another church and studying with the JWs, they didn't tell me to wait on Jehovah to take care of the 'imperfections' in that church, they said that it proved they were wrong, and that, no matter how hard it was to turn my back on family and friends, I should do it if that religion proved false. Well, I just used the same standard when the JWs proved false."

  They rarely have an answer for that...
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  I spoke with an old JW friend on Friday....

  by LDH in

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  i thought you all would enjoy a conversation i had on friday.. i was at work, minding my own business, and my phone line rang.

  it was my sister in syracuse.

  she said, "you'll never guess who i'm talking to!

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  what i have noticed esp in the last few years is how more and more jw are still jw, but as far as obeying the rules it has become like a joke,

  I am beginning to think the only ones who are JWs anymore are those who ignore the rules, or follow them only when it's convenient...like arguing with 'apostates' on internet message boards despite XJWs repeatedly pointing out that they aren't "supposed" to be there.

  Those of us who tried our damndest to toe the line and who got sick watching the rules get bent into a pretzel or just plain ignored, got burned out or just figured out "Jehovah's clean organization" and its rhetoric about keeping the congregation clean, was just a lie and got the heck out.

  People who actually have high moral standards probably woke up and got out when the UN and/or pedophile news hit the fan.
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  Old literature?

  by asleif_dufansdottir in

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  we're moving, and have a couple of boxes of literature from the late 80's and early 90's in the basement.

  i hate to just throw away books (even jw books), but i'm certainly not going to send it somewhere where it might mislead more people.

  (giving to somebody to store them until the society changes its tune enough for them to be useful?

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  It is in english. Cool. I'll email you.
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  Old literature?

  by asleif_dufansdottir in

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  we're moving, and have a couple of boxes of literature from the late 80's and early 90's in the basement.

  i hate to just throw away books (even jw books), but i'm certainly not going to send it somewhere where it might mislead more people.

  (giving to somebody to store them until the society changes its tune enough for them to be useful?

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  We're moving, and have a couple of boxes of literature from the late 80's and early 90's in the basement. I hate to just throw away books (even JW books), but I'm certainly not going to send it somewhere where it might mislead more people. Does anybody else have any use for them? (giving to somebody to store them until the society changes its tune enough for them to be useful?)
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  tKingdom Melodies I remember/liked.

  by ScoobySnax in

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  ok bucking the trend here, but there was some kms i liked, alot of stick has been given to "gods loyal love"....well i liked that one.

  nice melody.. i think song 4 "gods promise of a paradise" too.

  and song number 15 "life without end at last".....remember this was in the brown book....still like that one, especially at conventions, always guaranteed to be on the sunday programme, still get teary eyed at that one.. what i want to know is what happened to "keep your eyes on the prize"....i can remember writing those words out on a sheet and hanging it in my room, surely the classic jw kingdom melody of all time...guaranteed at conventions circa 70's/80/s......still miss it, and hum it even now occasionaly.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  I don't remember the name of it (was it "Brothers Dwelling in Unity???")

  Started out:
  How PLEA-sant to see BRO-thers, All DWELL in u-ni-TY...

  anyway...the tune of that particular phrase was the "looney tunes" song...seriously! Some of us used to just bust a gut trying to keep from laughing (and being "untheocratic") during that song!

  One sister I knew refused to get married in the hall because she hated Kingdom Melodies and refused to have Shulamite maiden played at her wedding!
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  Backstabbers!!!! Any other examples?

  by micheal in

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  i just left the "truth"a couple of months ago, did some sub-contracting work for a brother ( real self-righteous guy), just recieved a phone call from him saying he will no longer be needing my services.

  nothing to do with my work he said, just the way it goes.

  what a wonderful frickin brotherhood, those damn bastards!!!

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  Our congregation PO painted cars on the side. We had him do ours. He didn't even sand it. It looked horrible. Seriously, it looked like it somebody had just taken a can of spray paint to it...it was that bad. It started to flake off in a couple of days. We couldn't do anything about it, even complain (he being the PO). And, of course, being poor broke JWs, we couldn't afford to have anybody re-do it.

  His name was Steve Avery, he lives in Southeast Nebraska. Watch out for him!
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  Backstabbers!!!! Any other examples?

  by micheal in

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  i just left the "truth"a couple of months ago, did some sub-contracting work for a brother ( real self-righteous guy), just recieved a phone call from him saying he will no longer be needing my services.

  nothing to do with my work he said, just the way it goes.

  what a wonderful frickin brotherhood, those damn bastards!!!

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Our congregation PO painted cars on the side. We had him do ours. He didn't even sand it. It looked horrible. Seriously, it looked like it somebody had just taken a can of spray paint to it...it was that bad. It started to flake off in a couple of days. We couldn't do anything about it, even complain (he being the PO). And, of course, being poor broke JWs, we couldn't afford to have anybody re-do it.

  His name was Steve Avery, he lives in Southeast Nebraska. Watch out for him!
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  Brothers/Sisters you disliked

  by JH in

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  even if everybody calls themselves brothers and sisers in the congregation, were there some in your congregation that you just couldn't stand?.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Steve Avery. Southeast NE. What a jerk. He was our PO for way to many years. The other elders were scared sh*tless of him (you know how word gets around about things...I can't count the times I heard about people going to the other elders about some crappy thing he pulled, to be told "just wait on Jehovah"...over something an elder did!!). His wife was afraid of her own shadow and if she was ever not at a meeting, and a sister said something like, "Oh, I hope Millie isn't ill? Is there something I can do to help?" He'd counsel you for gossip (no shit!!). I truly believe he was a wife abuser. He was way more mysogynistic than the average mysogynist JW male.

  He got removed as elder, but something really fishy happened. The CO came by for a visit, and all of a sudden the Avery's were transferring to a different hall. They didn't move out of our territory, (which was wayy out in the rurals) they just started attending another hall. This was something that we'd always been told was a HUGE no-no (a few cong members lived on the edge of the territory and had been told they were not allowed to drive to a hall that was actually closer - to put it in perspective, we were 40 miles from the hall and we weren't the farthest out). And they were a bigger hall and had more elders than we did, so it wasn't because they needed the help. He was made elder there, too...all while still living in our territory.

  Congregation gossip was that the CO had flat-out told him to step down and he refused! And he had been such a crappy PO that we all believed it! (even though we were afraid to talk about it too out in the open)
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  did you go to college? before/during/after wts? what is your profession?

  by nowisee in

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Hubby and I both went to college after. Both graduated (He summa cum laude w/ 4.0) this past year. Both going to grad school this fall for PhDs.