Posts by Jayson

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Is There Anything That a JW Wouldn't Do If They Were Told To???

by minimus in

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22 years ago

blind obedience is what witnesses are known for.

is there anything that even they wouldn't do, if so instructed??

?

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Blind obedience is what Witnesses are known for. Is there anything that even THEY wouldn't do, if so instructed???

Minimus if a Witness was ordered to change their opinion of faith and refused they would be disfellowshipped and therefore not be a Witness. If they were told to do something or to abstain from something and did not then they would be disfellowshipped and no longer be a Witness. If they are not propagating the faith anymore and just hide out to avoid the consequences of not following orders then they are just AWOL.

If they do not do as they are told then they are removed to keep the organization sanatized aren't they? So why the question? Everyone has a point where their conscience will not let them do what is wrong. It is their humanity. But when a person gets to that point then and listens to their conscience instead of men then they are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are free.

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DF'D PEOPLE

by obiwan in

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22 years ago

does anyone know if it's possible to find out who have been df'd and who has been reinstated?

i'm curious because i heard an old friend was df'd, but this information was third party.

i don't want to call up and say "hey long time no see" and get hung up on because of bad info...anyone know?

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Disfellowshipping is a procedure which is laid down in the Bible . . . A young woman who was disfellowshipped and later reinstated said: "I am happy that Jehovah loves his people enough to see that his organization is kept clean. What may seem harsh to outsiders is both necessary and really a loving thing to do. I am grateful that our heavenly Father is a loving and forgiving God."

Strait from their website. I took your advice razor and did a little search around their site. The above is what I kept bumping into.

Yep, families, friendships, and marriages completetly divided because they are cruel and hurtful people. It is that simple. It [shunning] seems harsh to outsiders because it is harsh, cruel, mean, and totally unbiblical in any way. A loving group would never shun love or, shun as love. That is an oxymoron. They shun 100% out of a desire to contol. There is no other reason.

Even a sociopath can give reasons to support their actions. But they are still sociopaths and they are still wrong. Jehovah Witnesses are wrong. And no doubt in another 30 years the JW's then will not be like the JW's today Just like those today are not like those 30 years ago ect....(that is if the movement is even still alive.) It is so sad that they refuse to learn about the truth & the history of themselves. I wish they were not so afraid of the truth.

Obi I hope you can find your friend. Call them and find out. Send a letter or even flowers (It can say Happy Birthday!) and ask them out to dinner. All you can do is try. Good luck!

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Keep Your Religion to Yourself

by blondie in

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Blondie,

Classic.

Here is mine for the day.

Three friends die in a car accident and go to an orientation in Heaven.

They are all asked, "When you are in your casket and friends and family are mourning you, what would you like to hear them say about you?"

The first guy says, "I would like to hear them say that I was a great doctor of my time, and a great family man."

The second guy says, "I would like to hear that I was a wonderful husband and school teacher which made a huge difference in our children of tomorrow."

The last guy replies, "I would like to hear them say, "Look, he's moving."

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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????

by bluesapphire in

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22 years ago

simon, i think he's back.

did you let him back?

please get rid of him again.

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

And that was not directed towards you but includes you Eduardo. May be all be safe from trolls.

Minimus your making my head hurt. What the hell are you talking about? Stop being a baby.

Farkel- Welcome him. I do.

Welcome Eduardo. We will probably be on opposite sides in debates but welcome.

(Jayson of the it's to early to deal with this without coffee class.)

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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????

by bluesapphire in

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22 years ago

simon, i think he's back.

did you let him back?

please get rid of him again.

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

I'm saying a prayer for all of us. Dear God let us stay safe, stay alert & don't worry. We all have each other. Pray for help for the TROLLS. They need all the help they can get. We're all ok, but something somewhere along the line something real bad happened to them, Lord only knows how someone can have such a dark heart and want to hurt so many people. It's something that's never ending. I don't know what kind of sense of humor God has, but I think he has one..IMHO.
My prayer in dealing with trolls; God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, change the things we can, and keep them TROLLS down to a minumum. Give us the courage to give them back what they dish out and, try not to get us kicked off the boards defending ourselves. Give us the wisdom to have snappy comebacks. Help us help each other and ourselves dealing with these freaks, if that's what they are. Forgive me God , but man! they really bug me. My prayer, I thought I'd share. Thanks for being there, AMEN

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Christians force Wal-mart to ban British 'lad mags'

by ignored_one in

22 years ago

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=403863

eugh.

i hate the idea of someone decided what i can and can't read.

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Jay looks and Comf's pic post covers his face and screams

<My eyes! Oh God! My eyes!>

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Jehovahs Wtnesses donate blood cleaning machine

by mattnoel in

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22 years ago

just on meridian news -.

jw's have donated a blood cleaning machine to maidstone hospital.

aernt they loving and wonderfull - what is this a way for them to try and gain favour at the fact that people can have it cleaned but will rather let loved ones die from not having it in them !

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

bad blood theology aside.. i dont see what the problems is..

Mike, the fact that those who need the machine will get it is good. I thank the Witnesses for their gift.

The fact that so many JW's have died and will die over the false biblical reasoning of "eating blood" a policy that has changed so much over the last 100 years, all this blood on their hands, all for the whim of madmen in contol of the religion is an outrage....That's all.

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www.escapethewatchtower.com new website

by Hamas in

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22 years ago

i just changed that slow ass free web hosting and web redirection.

check it out now !

( the funk soul brother )

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Nice site Hamas.

Thank you.

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Corporal Punishment

by shamus in

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22 years ago

now that you are away from the organization, do you still believe in it?

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

There is nothing wrong with spanking.

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My Observation: The People On this Board Are Very Nice

by minimus in

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22 years ago

the more i get to know you, the more i appreciate what you've gone through and the more i feel a kinship toward you.

so many here are kind hearted people.

this board just keeps getting better and better!!

22 years ago

Jayson 22 years ago

Most of the people here are very kind, compassionate, caring, considerate and loving. Some are not.Those are the ones I have a problem with and they with me.

Oh Aztec despite my making you "sick" I think even you are in Mini's complement to all, as well as your def of "most" people here. I have no problems with you. (Just don't agree with you politically. And hell politics suck anyway.)

Jay

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