I dare them to come after me.
There's so many little dramas occuring right now, in line with my sister's wedding, that I'm sure I'm going to get the three subtle witness knocks VERY soon.
ashi
last nights meeting stated that in march they will be targeting inactive jw's.
just a warning for all you hermits out there.
barracade the doors, pull out the shotgun and take shifts watching, cause they're determined to get you back.
I dare them to come after me.
There's so many little dramas occuring right now, in line with my sister's wedding, that I'm sure I'm going to get the three subtle witness knocks VERY soon.
ashi
from the milwaukee, wisconsin newspaper:.
crash victim was on religious outing.
richfield boy was planning jehovah's witnesses visits.
Wren,
your example is exactly what JB and I were talking about.
ashi
from the milwaukee, wisconsin newspaper:.
crash victim was on religious outing.
richfield boy was planning jehovah's witnesses visits.
Preston, JB....right.
ashi
i have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
Do the post in Word first, then cut and paste.
That should help a bit.
At least you'll have a cooy.
ashi
i hope this doesnt come out sounding self righteous or anything like that.
forgive me if it sounds like an attempt to...i dont know..gain sympathy or something like that...its not.. i have been here a lot over the past couple of months since i found out the truth about the truth.
i've used this place as sort of a support system.
Just remember one thing, Flower. People offering support can be just as dangerous as those oppressing you. Use caution.
Good luck, and you'll become strong again. It comes with time. Don't worry about the nuances right now, just try to get past the big things slowly, and don't concern yourself with people you have to fight with. Avoid them, or lay down the law. You owe it to yourself.
ashi
with all the hype i've posted about britney i now must make a confession.
to be honest the celebrity i find the most attractive is jennifer connelly.
she most recently played a lead role in a beautiful mind.
I LOVE Jennifer Connelly. Beautiful woman, and not thin like a stick...a good fine, full-boned woman....aye!!
I'll have a Guinness with that Connelly, please!!!!
ashi
i have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
Flower,
have you read Mere Christianity? It's a wonderful (if dry) book by C.S. Lewis. He expounds what he believes are the virtues and downfalls of Christianity. Indavertantly, C.S. Lewis has made me an athiest. Why? Because of the way he portrayed chrisitans in it; as closeminded, abject people.
Are all chrisitians this way? Of course not. Are many? Yes.
Religion itself is divisive; it stirs up the kind of religious egotism we humans could as soon live without.
In becoming an athiest, I asked myself, why do people become part of religion? People who've been in a religion for a long time would say 'because they love God.' In some isolated cases this may be true. But, IMO, more often than not, people join religion for selfish reasons; to entice a religious mate, to give their lives structure, to give themselves impetus to do better, so give them purpose when they believe they can have none without a God in their lives.
Some people become religious to change bad habits, or to control others. Some religions are totally based on the improvement of the body, or mind. This in itself is good, but in the end removes the love of what should be the most important thing in our lives...people.
Most religions stress the need to cut ties with people 'who tempt us' to do bad. I'll tell you what, though: I've never met one totally 'good' person, nor one entirely 'bad' person. Religion has made those types of boundries, though, which can explain all of the hurt that religion has caused-it all comes from labeling people....you know the labels ....unchristian......infidel.....debased......
Words like that immediatly put a barrier between us and other people. That's why a lot of religions who proselytise are hell-bent on 'reaching out', because communicating in a civil fashion with people they find morally inferior is difficult for them. Such are the traps of modern religion.
Let's not forget the prohpecies, wars, and many other atrocities that are attributed to religion. Is it necessarily religion's fault? No. But wicked men will always use something the general populace consider 'good' to control, or appease them. Hitler did it with the Catholic church. Any religion can be bought.
Sorry if this offends or makes you feel uneasy, Flower. Some roads aren't easy.
ashi
i have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
"OK...just fucking gag me with your moral superiority here! Did it ever occur to you that many religionists, (including Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc.), also believe that doing good is its own reward? Do you honestly believe that everytime someone of faith does something good for someone else that she is doing it in order to receive some blessing from some supernatural entity? I have done good things for my fellow human beings for no other reason than that I wanted to....and I am not an atheist. Perhaps I am an exception to the rule"
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Hey, dude, I think Abad was referring to the people who SOLELY give because they are religiously guilted into showing grace to people, instead of those who are sincere. He was just showing that any person could be generous, although they were atheist, christian, hindu, etc.
ashi
speaking entirely from a biblical standpoint:.
let's say you are a devout jw.
your wife and children are being threatened by an intruder with a gun.
If anyone tried to harm my fam, watch out, cause I wouldn't just kill him, I would make him suffer.
Oh, and about that lovely infant-dashing scripture-imagine the horror mothers felt before being killed by a 'loving god'.
witness urban legends.
you know what they are; we have all heard them before.
the stories that somehow show the witnesses or their teachings in a good light but always seem to contain elements that would seem preposterous to most people.
Right, yet I was a very different person several years ago, and my bullshit detector didn't work. I just didn't care what was said, I never investigated anything, I was a 'natural street freak, just eating anything that came by.' (Fear and Loathing reference)
true objectivity is not anywhere, but a good balance is possible, just not in the borg, as I've seen.
ashi