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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

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  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  Below is data that I have posted 2 times previously, but you and other theists ignore it and similar data and simply spew idioacy. - DJS

  I am glad you posted again. I saw your previous post but had moved onto new threads. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to address this.

  There is much to address in your post, but let's give this this the rigorous treatment that it deserves. Please post the links to all the studies and data you referenced. I am especially interested in the last.

  The more religious a state’s population, the higher the crime, STD and teen pregnancy rates.

  Let's work our way through this methodically.
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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

  1. jw
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  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  Correction to my previous post:

  I would not expect the "Gentile Christians" to say anything nice about the Jews who revolted against Rome. The Gentile Christians were busy trying to save their own hides.
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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  mrhhome

  Anti-semitic racism. - Cofty

  For once, I have to agree with Cofty. There is some blantant anti-semitism in the Bible.

  Having said that, one has to consider the historical background. You had "Jewish Christianity" probably centered around the original disciples and led by "James the Just." At the same time, you had a rapidly growing "Gentile Christianity" created by the apostle Paul. The "Jewish Christians" probably were wiped out in the Jewish revolt against Rome in 66-70 AD for all practical purposes. I hold to the view that they were somehow involved in the revolt. This is about the same time that Nero was persecuting the Christians. The Gentile Christians were doing everything they could do to put as much distance between themselves and the "Jewish Christians."

  I would not expect the "Gentile Christians" to say anything nice about the "Jewish Christians". The Gentile Christians were busy trying to save their own hide.
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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

  1. jw
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  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  mrhhome

  I have not read all 6 pages of posts, but this thread has been remarkably polite. This post will probably change that.

  Faith = good and moral. Lack of faith = bad and immoral

  I would not use the words good people and bad people. Those words are entirely too broad and carry the baggage of unintended connotations. However, there are real meaningful differences in how believers and non-believers behave. That does not imply that believers are somehow superior to the non-believers. Nor does it imply that believers are perfect people who never make mistakes and are above criticism. Obviously, it does mean that I believe that I am right and they are wrong. If the topic is mores, it means that my actions are moral and theirs are immoral.

  If there are no “fruits of the spirit,” then how can any Christian claim that we believe in anything real? Fortunately, you do not have to be a rocket scientist to review the postings on this board and conclude that believers and non-believers generally differ on important moral questions.

  Having said that, there are many Christians who do not demonstrate the fruits of the spirit. Ironically, that is my litmus test for JW. I do not care where they stand on doctrinal issues. If I do not see the fruits of the spirit, I do not consider them Christians no matter how much they thump the Bible. Likewise, I left the Southern Baptist when I went to college, because I felt that they missed the forest for the trees.
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  How do you feel about Common Core education?

  by nonjwspouse in

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  especially if you are a teacher, how did you learn about it to begin with?

  was there a common core rep doing a slick presentation?.

  how do those of you with kids on school feel about, among others, things such as the deemphasis on the great works of literature ?.

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  Berengaria. Go back and read my previous posts. I provided several examples.
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  How do you feel about Common Core education?

  by nonjwspouse in

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  especially if you are a teacher, how did you learn about it to begin with?

  was there a common core rep doing a slick presentation?.

  how do those of you with kids on school feel about, among others, things such as the deemphasis on the great works of literature ?.

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  LisaRose, I believe that you are correct.

  As I stated earlier,the states which opted out were wise to do so. At minimum, they should sit back a few years and let the bugs get worked out.
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  abortion vs holocaust

  by unstopableravens in

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  mrhhome

  As for the 75% who are unprepared either emotionally or financially to raise a child, I think the ultimate solution is to reduce the income inequality, raise the general prosperity of the nation, and have a stable society and government.

  You forgot promoting world peace and eliminating hunger in your list.

  The Dutch approach to preventing teenage pregnancy has often been seen as a model by other countries.

  Cross cultural comparisons are risky business. There are many demographic and cultural reasons why Texas has a higher teenage pregnancy rate than the Netherlands. You could adopt all of the Dutch policies, and it would likely only have a marginal impact on the teenage pregnancy rate.

  So can I deduce from your response that you think abortion should be legal when the mom just doesn't want the baby?
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  How do you feel about Common Core education?

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. current

  especially if you are a teacher, how did you learn about it to begin with?

  was there a common core rep doing a slick presentation?.

  how do those of you with kids on school feel about, among others, things such as the deemphasis on the great works of literature ?.

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  LisaRose,

  I think that the problems are more fundamental. The underlying curriculum has flaws. The implementation is flawed. At what point do you declare it a disaster and scrap it? [A common theme in this administration.]

  As for Standardized teaching / testing, I have mixed opinions and my opinions have changed with time.

  1. Pro: I have no issues with holding people to a certain set of standards.
  2. Con: I would like to keep the federal government out of it and leave it to the states. To summarize my views on federalism, I like the fact that I can move to another state if I do not like the politics of the state in which I reside. If the federal government gets involved, there is no escaping it.
  3. Pro: There is nothing wrong teaching to the test if the test covers what you want taught.
  4. Con: Unfortunately, standardized test / teaching is forcing everyone to the same pace. Either you teach to the lowest common denominator or leave X% of your classroom behind in the dust.
  5. Con: At some point, you can only squeeze so much out of your teachers. Let's face it, most of the kids in school have serious problems at home which is impacting their performance at school. Cracking the whip over the teacher's heads isn't going to fix that.
  6. Con: Standardized teaching seems to be limiting the teacher's flexibility.

  Misc concerns with where education is going in this country: (Independent of the Common Core Issue)

  • How much of this push to put everything on the computer a consequence of standardized testing? Aren't studies now determining that kids need to limit their screen time?
  • What ever happened to "book reports"? I used to write book reports. Now, kids takes "AR" tests on the computer to prove that they read the book. People are beating on the "critical thinking" drum but abandoning a great old fashion tool which forced kids to (a) think about what they read and (b) compose something intelligent.
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  abortion vs holocaust

  by unstopableravens in

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  Folks,

  Raven has answered the question. In principle, he does not believe that the mom's life is more important than the baby's life. In practice, he acknowledges that if you cannot save the baby in any circumstances, no reason to take mom down with the baby.

  Stop being a moral coward and give a clear answer. - Cofty

  Cofty - Here we go again. Are you intentionally trolling, or did you just lose your medication? Do you need therapy for some lingering issues with the JW, or are you just the type of coward who jumps on people when you think the momentum is going in your direction?

  I realize unstop would like to nail me down on my stance, to shake me off the fence so to speak, but there's a reason I won't weigh in with an opinion. It's none of my business. - jgnat

  jgnat - It is a little unfair to insist that raven give you a clear answer on a marginal case, when you are unwilling to take a position yourself.

  • Why do you think that it is none of your business? Do you think that society has no interest in (a) when a life begins or (b) when we are justified in ending a life? Isn't that the most basic point of law? To protect life.
  • Let's follow your first breath standard. What if a baby is born premature and put on a ventilator? Are we justified in killing it? Your standard presents as many problems as the "life begins at concept."

  Have any of you who are ganging up on raven answered the question "Do you support abortion in cases that do not involve rape or incest?" You all are arguing over 10-15% percent of the cases and ignoring the other 85-90%.
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  How do you feel about Common Core education?

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. current

  especially if you are a teacher, how did you learn about it to begin with?

  was there a common core rep doing a slick presentation?.

  how do those of you with kids on school feel about, among others, things such as the deemphasis on the great works of literature ?.

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  BizzyBee,

  (The shame of the south and much of the mid-west.)

  My kid's rural Alabama elementary school was a 2012 Blue Ribbon Lighthouse school. What about your schools?